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Will be seated 12 feet apart.

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The audience is enthusiastic

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about their candidates, but they've

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agreed to express that enthusiasm

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only twice at the end

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of the debate, and now

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when I introduce the candidates.

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Please welcome California Senator

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Kamala Harris and Vice President

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Mike Pence.

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Thank you.

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Senator Harris and Vice President

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Pence, thank you for being here.

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We're meeting as President Trump and

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the first lady continue to undergo

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treatment in Washington after

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testing positive for

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covid-19. We send

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our thoughts and prayers to them for

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their rapid and complete recovery

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and for the recovery of everyone

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afflicted by the

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coronavirus.

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The two campaigns and the Commission

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on Presidential Debates have agreed

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to the ground rules for tonight.

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I'm here to enforce them

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on behalf of the millions of

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Americans who are watching.

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One note: No one in either campaign

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or at the commission or anywhere

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else has been told in advance

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what topics are raise or what

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questions I'll ask.

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This 90 minute debate will be

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divided into nine segments of about

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ten minutes each. I'll begin

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a segment by posing a question

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to each of you, sometimes the same

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question, sometimes a different

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question on the same topic.

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You will then have two minutes to

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answer without interruption

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by me or the other

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candidate. Then we'll take six

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minutes or so to discuss the

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issue. At that point, although

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there will always be more to

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say, we'll move on to the next

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topic.

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We want a debate that is

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lively, but Americans also

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deserve a discussion

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that is civil.

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These are tumultuous

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times, but we can and will have a

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respectful exchange about

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the big issues facing our

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nation.

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Let's begin with the ongoing

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pandemic that has cost our country

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so much.

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Senator Harris, the coronavirus

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is not under control.

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Over the past week, Johns Hopkins

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reports that thirty nine states

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have had more covid cases over the

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past seven days than in the week

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before. Nine states have set

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new records.

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Even if a vaccine is released

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soon, the next administration will

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face hard choices.

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What would a Biden administration do

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in January and February that a

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Trump administration wouldn't

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do? Would you impose new lockdowns

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for businesses and schools in hot

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spots? A federal mandate to wear

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masks? You have two minutes to

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respond without

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interruption.

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Thank you, Susan.

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Well, the American people have

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witnessed what is the greatest

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failure of any presidential

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administration in the history of our

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country.

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And here are the facts.

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Two hundred and ten thousand dead

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people in our country in just the

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last several months.

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Over seven million people who have

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contracted this disease.

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One in five businesses

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closed.

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We're looking at front line

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workers who have been treated like

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sacrificial workers.

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We are looking at over 30

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million people

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who in the last several months

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had to file for unemployment.

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And here's the thing.

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On January 28th, the

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vice president and the president

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were informed about

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the nature of this pandemic.

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They were informed that it's lethal

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in consequence, that it

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is airborne, that

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it will affect young people

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and that it would be contracted

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because it is airborne.

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And they knew what was happening

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and they didn't tell you.

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Can you imagine if you knew on

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January 28th as

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opposed to March 13th, what

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they knew, what you might have done

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to prepare?

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They knew and they covered it up.

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The president said it was a hoax.

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They minimized the seriousness of

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it. The president said, you're on

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one side of his ledger, if you wear

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a mask, you're on the other side of

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his ledger. If you don't

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and in spite of all of that

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today, they still don't have a

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plan.

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They still don't have a plan.

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Well, Joe Biden does.

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And our plan is about what we need

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to do around a national strategy

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for contact tracing, for

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testing, for administration of the

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vaccine and making sure that

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it will be free for all.

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That is the plan that Joe Biden has

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and that I have, knowing that we

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have to get a hold of what has been

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going on and we need to save

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our country.

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And Joe Biden is the best leader to

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do that, and frankly, this

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administration has forfeited, thank

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you, senator, their right to
reelection

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based on this.

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Thank you, Senator Harris.

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Vice President Pence, more than two

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hundred and ten thousand Americans

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have died of covid-19 since

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February. The U.S.

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death toll as a percentage of our

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population is higher

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than that of almost every other

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wealthy nation on Earth.

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For instance, our death rate is two

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and a half times that of Canada next

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door, you head the administration's

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coronavirus task force.

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Why is the US death toll

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as a percentage of our population

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higher than that of almost every

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other wealthy country?

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And you have two minutes to respond

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without interruption.

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Susan, thank you. And I want to

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thank the commission and the

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University of Utah for

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hosting this event.

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And Senator Harris, it's a privilege

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to be on the stage with you.

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Our nation has gone through a very

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challenging time this year.

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But I want the American people to

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know from the very

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first day

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President Donald Trump has put the

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health of America first.

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Before there were more than five

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cases in the United States, all

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people who had returned from China,

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President Donald Trump did what no

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other American president had ever

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done, and that was he suspended

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all travel from China, the second

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largest economy in the world.

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Now, Senator, Joe

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Biden, Biden opposed that

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decision. He said it was xenophobic

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and hysterical.But

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I can tell you, having led the White

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House coronavirus task force at that

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decision alone by President Trump

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bought us invaluable time to stand

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up the greatest national

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mobilization since World War

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Two.

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And I believe it saved hundreds of

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thousands of American lives.

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Because with that time, we were able

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to reinvent testing.

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More than 115 million tests

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have been done to date.

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We were able to see to the delivery

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of billions of

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supplies. So our doctors and nurses

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had the resources support they

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needed. And we began really

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before the month of February, was

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asked to develop a vaccine and

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to develop medicines and

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therapeutics had been saving lives

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all along the way.

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And under President Trump's

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leadership, Operation Warp Speed, we

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believe we'll have literally

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tens of millions of doses of a

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vaccine before the end of this

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year. The reality is, when you look

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at the Biden plan, it reads an awful

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lot like what President Trump

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and I and our task force have been

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doing every step of the

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way. And quite frankly,

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when I look at their plan that talks

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about advancing

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testing, creating new PPE,

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developing a vaccine,

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it looks a little bit like

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plagiarism, which is something Joe

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Biden knows a little bit about.

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And I think the American people know

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that this is a president who has put

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the health of America first.

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And the American people, I believe,

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with my heart, can be proud

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of the sacrifices they have

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made. It saved countless American

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lives.

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Senator Harris, would you like to

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respond?

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Absolutely. Whatever the vice

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president is claiming the

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administration has done, clearly it

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hasn't worked.

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When you're looking

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at over two hundred and ten thousand
dead bodies in our country. American

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lives. That have been lost. Families
that are grieving that loss. And the

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vice president of the task force.

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And knew on January 28th how serious

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this was. And then thanks to Bob

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Woodward, we learned

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that they knew about it.

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And then when that was

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exposed, the vice president said

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when asked, well, why didn't you

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tell anybody?

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He said, because the president

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wanted people to remain

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calm.

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Well, let's give.

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But, Suzanne, this is important.

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And I want to add, Mr. Vice

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President, I'm speaking.

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I'm speaking. You.

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Have 15 more seconds and then we'll

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give the vice president a chance.

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So I want to ask the American

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people, how calm were you when you

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were panicked about where you're

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going to get your next roll of

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toilet paper, how calm are

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you when your kids were sent home

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from school and you didn't know when

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they could go back?

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How can you think when

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your children couldn't see your

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parents because you were afraid they

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could kill them?

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Let's give Vice President Pence a

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chance to respond. Vice President,

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you have one minute to respond.

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There's not a day goes by that I

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haven't thought of every American

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family that's lost a loved one.

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And I want all of you to know that

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you'll always be in our hearts

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and in our prayers.

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But when you say what the American

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people have done over these last

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eight months, hasn't worked,

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that's a great disservice

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to the sacrifices the American

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people have made.

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I'm afraid - the reality.

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If I may if I may finish Senator.

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The reality is, Dr. Fauci said,

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everything that he told

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the president in the Oval Office,

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the president told the American

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people.

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Now, President Trump, I will tell

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you, has boundless confidence in the

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American people. And he always spoke

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with confidence that we'd get

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through this together.

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But when you say it hasn't worked,

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when Dr. Fauci and Dr. Bergson

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and our medical experts came to us

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in the second week of March, they

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said if the president didn't take

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the unprecedented step of

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shutting down roughly half of the

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American economy, that we could

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lose two point two million

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Americans. And that's the reality.

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Thank you. He also said, if we did

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everything right, Susan, we could

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still lose more than two hundred

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thousand Americans.

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Vice President. for one. Life lost

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is too many, Susan.

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But the American people, I

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believe, deserve credit for the

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sacrifices that they have

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made, putting the health of their

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family and their neighbors

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first, our doctors or nurses our

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first responders.

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Thank you, Vice President Pence.

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And I'm going to speak up on behalf

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of what the American people have

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done.

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Vice President, since you were in

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the front row in a Rose Garden

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event, 11 days ago, what seems to

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have been a super spreader event for

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senior administration and

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congressional officials, no social

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distancing, few masks, and now

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a cluster of coronavirus cases among

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those who were there.

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How can you expect Americans

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to follow the administration's

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safety guidelines to protect

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themselves from covid when

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you were at the White House have not

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been doing so?

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Well, the American people have

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demonstrated over the last

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eight months that

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when given the facts.

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They're willing to put the health of

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their families and their neighbors

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and people they don't even know

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first. And President Trump

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and I have great confidence in the

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American people and

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in their ability to take

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that information and put

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it into practice.

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In the height of the epidemic,

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when we were losing

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a heartbreaking number of two

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thousand five hundred Americans a

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day, we surged resources to New

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Jersey and New York and

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New Orleans and Detroit.

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We told the American people what

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needed to be done and the American

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people made the sacrifices.

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When the outbreak in the Sunbelt

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happened this summer, again,

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Americans step forward.

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But the reality is the work of

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the president of the United States

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goes on.

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The vacancy on the Supreme Court of

20:16:05:22 20:16:06:22
the United States has

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come upon us and the president

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introduced Judge Amy Coney Barrett,

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thank you. Thank you very much.

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If I may say that Rose Garden

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event, there's been a great deal of

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speculation about it.

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My wife, Karen and I were there and

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honored to be there.

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Many of the people who were at that

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event, Susan, actually were tested

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for coronavirus.

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And it was an outdoor event which

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all of our scientists regularly and

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routinely advise.

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The difference here is President

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Trump and I trust the American

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people to make choices

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in the best interest of their

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health. Joe Biden and Kamala

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Harris consistently talk

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about mandates and not not

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just mandates with the coronavirus,

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but a government takeover of

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health. Thank you. Thank you.

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Green New Deal, all government

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control. We're about freedom and

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respecting the freedom of the

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American people.

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Let's talk about respecting the

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American people.

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You respect the American when you

20:16:58:02 20:16:59:15
tell them the truth, you respect

20:17:00:02 20:17:01:03
the American people when you have

20:17:01:04 20:17:02:12
the courage to be a

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leader. Speaking of those things

20:17:04:14 20:17:06:03
that you may not want people to

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hear, but they need to hear so they

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can protect themselves.

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But this administration stood

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on information that if you had as

20:17:13:08 20:17:15:03
a parent, if you had as a

20:17:15:14 20:17:16:10
worker, knowing you didn't have

20:17:16:11 20:17:18:04
enough money saved up and now you're

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standing in a food line

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because of the ineptitude

20:17:23:20 20:17:25:06
of an administration that was

20:17:25:20 20:17:27:08
unwilling to speak the truth to

20:17:27:16 20:17:29:02
the American people.

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So let's talk about caring about

20:17:31:04 20:17:32:02
the American people.

20:17:32:03 20:17:33:04
The American people have had to

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sacrifice far too much because

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of the incompetence of this

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administration. It is asking too

20:17:38:05 20:17:39:15
much of the people, it

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asking too much of the people.

20:17:42:11 20:17:44:03
They would not be equipped with the

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information they need to

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help themselves to protect their

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parents and their children.

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I'm sorry that Kamala Harris,

20:17:50:14 20:17:52:05
Senator Harris, I mean, I'm sorry.

20:17:52:08 20:17:53:13
That's fine, I'm Kamala.

20:17:53:21 20:17:55:12
You'ree Senator Harris, to me for

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life to get back to normal.

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Dr. Anthony Fauci and other experts

20:17:59:04 20:18:00:21
say that most of the people who can

20:18:01:04 20:18:02:16
be vaccinated need to be

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vaccinated. But half of Americans

20:18:04:20 20:18:06:12
now say they wouldn't take a vaccine

20:18:06:14 20:18:07:25
if it was released now.

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If the Trump administration approves

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a vaccine before or after the

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election, should Americans take

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it? And would you take it?

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If the public health

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professionals, if Dr. Fauci, if

20:18:21:04 20:18:22:12
the doctors tell us that we

20:18:22:25 20:18:24:01
should take it, I'll be the first in

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line to take it.

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Absolutely. But if Donald Trump

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tells us that we should take it, I'm

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not taking it.

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Vice President Pence, there have

20:18:30:21 20:18:32:10
been a lot of repercussions from

20:18:32:12 20:18:33:12
this pandemic.

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In recent days, the president's

20:18:35:04 20:18:36:08
diagnosis of covid-19 has

20:18:36:15 20:18:38:03
underscored the importance

20:18:38:11 20:18:39:20
of the job that you hold and

20:18:40:09 20:18:41:10
that you are seeking.

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That's our second topic tonight.

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It's the role of the vice president.

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One of you will make history on

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January 20th.

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You will be the vice president to

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the oldest president of the United

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States has ever had.

20:18:54:21 20:18:56:06
Donald Trump will be 74 years

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old on inauguration day.

20:18:58:06 20:19:00:04
Joe Biden will be 78 years

20:19:00:14 20:19:01:23
old. That already has raised

20:19:02:14 20:19:04:06
concerns among some voters,

20:19:04:10 20:19:05:24
concerns that have been sharpened

20:19:06:05 20:19:08:08
by President Trump's hospitalization

20:19:08:09 20:19:09:21
in recent days.

20:19:10:08 20:19:12:02
Vice President Pence, have you had a

20:19:12:03 20:19:13:05
conversation or reached

20:19:13:22 20:19:16:01
an agreement with President Trump

20:19:16:05 20:19:18:06
about safeguards or procedures

20:19:18:07 20:19:19:17
when it comes to the issue of

20:19:20:03 20:19:21:07
presidential disability?

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And if not, do you think

20:19:23:10 20:19:24:18
you should? You have two minutes

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without interruption.

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Well, Susan, thank you.

20:19:27:10 20:19:28:08
Although I would like to go back.

20:19:28:09 20:19:30:01
I think we need to move on,

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but.

20:19:30:14 20:19:31:13
I would like to go back

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because the reality is

20:19:34:07 20:19:36:20
that we're going to have a vaccine,

20:19:36:21 20:19:38:13
Senator, in record time, in unheard

20:19:38:17 20:19:40:06
of time, in less than a year.

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We have five companies in

20:19:44:04 20:19:45:24
phase three clinical trials

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and we're right now producing tens

20:19:48:01 20:19:49:20
of millions of doses.

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So the fact

20:19:51:24 20:19:53:10
that you continue to undermine

20:19:53:19 20:19:55:18
public confidence in a vaccine

20:19:56:15 20:19:58:05
if the vaccine emerges during the

20:19:58:11 20:20:00:02
Trump administration, I think is

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is unconscionable.

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And, Senator, I just ask you,

20:20:04:13 20:20:06:06
stop playing politics with people's

20:20:06:21 20:20:07:21
lives. The reality is

20:20:08:25 20:20:10:16
that we will have a vaccine, we

20:20:11:03 20:20:12:08
believe, before the end of this

20:20:12:18 20:20:14:11
year, and it will have the capacity

20:20:14:23 20:20:16:23
to save countless American

20:20:17:09 20:20:18:16
lives. And your continuous

20:20:19:07 20:20:20:07
undermining of

20:20:21:03 20:20:22:16
confidence in a vaccine is

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just unacceptable.

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And let me also say,

20:20:26:24 20:20:28:06
you know, the reality is when you

20:20:28:07 20:20:30:05
talk about about failure in this

20:20:30:24 20:20:32:20
administration, we actually do know

20:20:32:21 20:20:34:04
what failure looks like in a

20:20:34:19 20:20:35:20
pandemic. It was 2009.

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The swine

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flu arrived in the United States.

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Thankfully, it ended up not

20:20:42:19 20:20:43:19
being as lethal as

20:20:44:17 20:20:45:17
the coronavirus. But

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before the end of the year

20:20:48:19 20:20:50:08
when Joe Biden was vice president of

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the United States, not seven

20:20:52:09 20:20:54:03
and a half million people contracted

20:20:54:10 20:20:56:14
the swine flu, sixty

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million Americans contracted the

20:20:58:10 20:20:59:10
swine flu.

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If the swine flu had been as lethal

20:21:01:15 20:21:02:20
as the coronavirus in

20:21:03:22 20:21:05:04
2009, when Joe Biden was vice

20:21:05:15 20:21:06:13
president, we would have lost two

20:21:06:14 20:21:08:10
million American lives.

20:21:08:11 20:21:09:22
His own chief of staff, Ron

20:21:10:12 20:21:12:08
Klain, would say last year

20:21:12:24 20:21:14:07
that it was pure luck, that

20:21:14:24 20:21:16:18
they did, quote, everything possible

20:21:17:09 20:21:18:09
wrong.

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And we learned from

20:21:20:11 20:21:21:21
that. They left the strategic

20:21:22:00 20:21:23:25
national stockpile empty.

20:21:24:03 20:21:26:01
They left an empty and hollow

20:21:26:11 20:21:28:04
plan. But we still learned from it.

20:21:28:06 20:21:29:06
And I think-

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Vide President Pence, I'm sorry.

20:21:32:12 20:21:32:20
Your time is up.

20:21:32:21 20:21:33:16
What we have done.

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And Senator, please

20:21:35:18 20:21:36:23
stop undermining confidence in a

20:21:37:13 20:21:37:18
vaccine.

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Senator Harris, let me ask you the

20:21:39:05 20:21:40:17
same question that I asked Vice

20:21:40:22 20:21:42:10
President Pence, which is, have

20:21:42:20 20:21:44:10
you had a conversation or reached

20:21:44:19 20:21:46:06
an agreement with Vice President

20:21:46:07 20:21:47:08
Biden about safeguards

20:21:48:06 20:21:49:14
or procedures when it comes

20:21:50:02 20:21:51:21
to the issue of presidential

20:21:52:15 20:21:53:24
disability? And if not, and if you

20:21:54:00 20:21:55:12
win the election next month, do

20:21:55:22 20:21:57:05
you think you should?

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You have two minutes uninterrupted.

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So let me tell you, first of all,

20:22:01:07 20:22:03:07
the day I got the call from from

20:22:03:09 20:22:04:22
Joe Biden, it was actually a Zoom

20:22:05:10 20:22:06:10
call asking

20:22:07:07 20:22:09:01
me to serve with him on this ticket,

20:22:09:06 20:22:10:10
was probably one of the most

20:22:10:17 20:22:12:00
memorable, memorable days of my

20:22:12:08 20:22:14:05
life. I you know.

20:22:14:20 20:22:16:01
I thought about my mother

20:22:16:20 20:22:18:24
who came to the United States

20:22:19:00 20:22:20:01
at the age of 19

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and gave birth to me at the age of

20:22:22:08 20:22:23:08
twenty five at Kaiser

20:22:24:11 20:22:25:25
Hospital in Oakland, California.

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And the thought that I'd be sitting

20:22:28:19 20:22:30:18
here right now, I know

20:22:31:08 20:22:32:07
would make her proud.

20:22:32:08 20:22:34:04
And she must be looking down on us.

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You know, Joe and I were raised

20:22:37:05 20:22:38:15
in a very similar way.

20:22:38:19 20:22:40:12
We were raised with values that are

20:22:40:15 20:22:42:04
about hard work,

20:22:42:11 20:22:43:11
about the value

20:22:44:06 20:22:45:23
and the dignity of public service,

20:22:46:10 20:22:48:04
and about the importance of fighting

20:22:48:06 20:22:49:16
for the dignity of all people.

20:22:49:17 20:22:51:07
And I think Joe asked me to serve

20:22:51:08 20:22:53:03
with him because, you

20:22:53:06 20:22:54:20
know, I have a career that included

20:22:55:01 20:22:56:11
being elected the first woman

20:22:56:12 20:22:57:18
district attorney of San

20:22:58:09 20:23:00:03
Francisco, where I created models of

20:23:00:11 20:23:01:23
innovation for law enforcement

20:23:02:10 20:23:03:20
in terms of reform of the criminal

20:23:03:21 20:23:05:06
justice system. I was elected

20:23:05:24 20:23:06:24
the first woman

20:23:08:02 20:23:09:14
of color and black woman to be

20:23:09:25 20:23:11:05
elected attorney general of the

20:23:11:06 20:23:12:17
state of California, where I ran the

20:23:12:18 20:23:14:06
second largest Department of Justice

20:23:14:07 20:23:15:25
in the United States, second only to

20:23:16:01 20:23:17:05
the United States Department of

20:23:17:18 20:23:19:11
Justice. And there I took on

20:23:19:15 20:23:20:23
everything from transnational

20:23:20:24 20:23:22:13
criminal organizations to the big

20:23:22:20 20:23:24:05
banks that were taking advantage of

20:23:24:06 20:23:25:22
homeowners to for profit

20:23:26:10 20:23:27:17
colleges, that were taking advantage

20:23:27:18 20:23:28:16
of veterans.

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And then, of course, now I serve in

20:23:30:05 20:23:31:16
the United States Senate as only the

20:23:31:17 20:23:33:07
second black woman ever elected to

20:23:33:12 20:23:34:11
the United States Senate.

20:23:34:12 20:23:35:22
I serve on the Senate Intelligence

20:23:35:23 20:23:36:22
Committee, where I've been in

20:23:37:03 20:23:38:13
regular receipt of classified

20:23:39:04 20:23:40:18
information about threats to our

20:23:41:00 20:23:42:12
nation and hot spots around the

20:23:42:20 20:23:43:22
world. I have traveled the world.

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I have met with our soldiers

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in our in war

20:23:47:14 20:23:49:03
zones. And I think Joe has asked

20:23:49:13 20:23:51:01
me to serve with him because he

20:23:51:11 20:23:52:15
knows that we share,

20:23:53:12 20:23:55:02
we share a purpose which is about

20:23:55:09 20:23:56:22
lifting up the American people.

20:23:57:07 20:23:58:21
And after the four years that we

20:23:59:02 20:24:00:19
have seen of Donald Trump unifying

20:24:00:23 20:24:02:18
our country around our common values

20:24:03:10 20:24:04:10
and principles.

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Thank you, Senator Harris.

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Neither president nor Vice President

20:24:07:23 20:24:09:02
Biden has released the sort of

20:24:09:11 20:24:11:09
detailed health information

20:24:11:15 20:24:13:07
that had become the modern norm

20:24:13:08 20:24:14:12
until the 2016 election.

20:24:15:04 20:24:16:13
And in recent days, President

20:24:16:14 20:24:17:18
Trump's doctors have given

20:24:17:25 20:24:19:14
misleading answers or refused to

20:24:19:15 20:24:21:03
answer basic questions about his

20:24:21:09 20:24:23:01
health. And my question to each of

20:24:23:02 20:24:24:04
you in turn is, is this

20:24:25:03 20:24:27:06
information voters

20:24:27:10 20:24:28:10
deserve to know?

20:24:29:06 20:24:30:12
Vice President Pence, would you like

20:24:30:13 20:24:31:12
to go first?

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Well, Susan, thank you.

20:24:33:13 20:24:34:13
And let me

20:24:35:14 20:24:36:14
let me say, on behalf

20:24:37:15 20:24:39:16
of the president and the first

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lady, how moved we've all been

20:24:42:22 20:24:45:03
by the outpouring of prayers

20:24:45:14 20:24:46:14
and concern for

20:24:47:11 20:24:48:08
the president.

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And I do believe it's emblematic of

20:24:50:04 20:24:51:18
the prayers and the concern that

20:24:52:00 20:24:53:04
have ushered forth for every

20:24:53:05 20:24:54:04
American impacted by

20:24:55:04 20:24:56:04
the coronavirus.

20:24:56:21 20:24:58:11
But the care the president received

20:24:58:19 20:25:00:16
at Walter Reed Hospital,

20:25:00:17 20:25:01:24
the White House doctors, was

20:25:02:14 20:25:04:05
exceptional. And the transparency

20:25:04:06 20:25:05:14
that they practiced all along the

20:25:05:15 20:25:07:07
way will continue because

20:25:07:09 20:25:09:02
the American people have a right to

20:25:09:04 20:25:10:17
know about the health and well-being

20:25:11:05 20:25:12:17
of their president and we'll

20:25:12:22 20:25:14:06
continue to do that.

20:25:14:11 20:25:16:04
But I'm just extremely grateful and

20:25:16:12 20:25:17:12
was more than more

20:25:18:11 20:25:19:13
than a little moved by

20:25:20:09 20:25:21:20
the broad and bipartisan

20:25:22:07 20:25:23:15
support. And Senator, I want to

20:25:23:16 20:25:24:22
thank you and Joe Biden for your

20:25:25:17 20:25:26:18
expressions of genuine concern.

20:25:26:24 20:25:28:24
And I also want to congratulate you,

20:25:29:21 20:25:31:10
as I did on that phone call,

20:25:32:02 20:25:33:14
on the historic nature of your

20:25:34:01 20:25:35:01
nomination.

20:25:36:20 20:25:38:06
I never expected to be on this

20:25:38:16 20:25:39:17
stage four years ago.

20:25:39:18 20:25:41:10
So I know the feeling.

20:25:41:11 20:25:42:10
But the reality

20:25:43:13 20:25:45:11
is we've got an

20:25:45:12 20:25:46:21
election before the American

20:25:47:12 20:25:48:13
people in the midst of this

20:25:48:14 20:25:49:13
challenging year.

20:25:49:17 20:25:50:20
And the stakes have never been

20:25:51:00 20:25:52:06
higher. I think the choice has never

20:25:52:07 20:25:52:16
been clearer.

20:25:52:17 20:25:54:04
I want to give Senator Harris a

20:25:54:08 20:25:55:19
chance to respond to the same

20:25:56:00 20:25:57:05
question I asked, which is, do

20:25:57:06 20:25:58:22
voters have a right to know

20:25:59:06 20:26:00:21
more detailed health information

20:26:00:25 20:26:02:12
about presidential candidates and

20:26:02:13 20:26:03:20
especially about presidents,

20:26:04:00 20:26:05:18
especially when they're facing some

20:26:05:19 20:26:06:23
kind of challenge?

20:26:07:08 20:26:08:09
Absolutely. And that's why Joe Biden

20:26:08:10 20:26:09:24
has been so incredibly

20:26:10:15 20:26:11:15
transparent. And certainly, by

20:26:11:19 20:26:13:25
contrast, the president has not

20:26:14:16 20:26:16:10
both in terms of health records, but

20:26:16:14 20:26:17:14
also let's look at taxes.

20:26:18:03 20:26:20:01
We now know because of great

20:26:20:02 20:26:21:11
investigative journalism that

20:26:21:24 20:26:23:17
Donald Trump paid seven hundred and

20:26:23:22 20:26:25:02
fifty dollars in

20:26:25:19 20:26:27:13
taxes. When I first heard about it,

20:26:27:15 20:26:29:04
I literally said, you mean seven

20:26:29:15 20:26:30:23
hundred and fifty thousand

20:26:32:10 20:26:33:21
dollars? And it was like, no, seven

20:26:33:22 20:26:35:03
hundred and fifty dollars.

20:26:35:20 20:26:37:18
We now know Donald Trump owes and

20:26:39:07 20:26:40:07
is in debt for 400

20:26:41:22 20:26:42:22
million dollars.

20:26:42:23 20:26:44:15
And just so everyone is clear, when

20:26:44:18 20:26:46:08
we say in debt, it means you owe

20:26:46:09 20:26:47:25
money to somebody.

20:26:48:03 20:26:49:21
And it'd be really good to know who

20:26:50:04 20:26:51:18
the president of the United States,

20:26:51:19 20:26:53:14
the commander-in-chief, owes

20:26:53:15 20:26:55:01
money to. Because the American

20:26:55:11 20:26:57:00
people have a right to know

20:26:57:19 20:26:58:22
what is influencing the

20:26:59:15 20:27:01:00
president's decisions, and is

20:27:01:11 20:27:02:25
he making those decisions on the

20:27:03:01 20:27:04:09
best interest of the American

20:27:04:10 20:27:06:06
people, of you, or

20:27:07:05 20:27:08:12
self-interest? So, Susan, I'm glad

20:27:08:13 20:27:10:07
you asked about transparency because

20:27:10:08 20:27:11:19
it has to be across the board.

20:27:11:20 20:27:13:23
Joe has been incredibly transparent

20:27:14:04 20:27:15:10
over many, many

20:27:16:02 20:27:17:16
years. The one thing we all know

20:27:17:19 20:27:18:24
about Joe, he puts it all

20:27:19:15 20:27:21:18
out there. He he is

20:27:22:05 20:27:23:11
honest. He is forthright.

20:27:24:08 20:27:25:25
But Donald Trump, on the other hand,

20:27:25:26 20:27:26:25
has been covering up everything.

20:27:26:26 20:27:28:12
Thank you, Senator Harris. I want to
give you a chance to respond, vice

20:27:28:13 20:27:28:18
president.

20:27:28:19 20:27:30:04
Well, look, I respect the fact that
Joe Biden spent 47 years in public

20:27:30:05 20:27:31:02
life. I respect your public service
as well.

20:27:31:03 20:27:31:08
Thank you.

20:27:42:05 20:27:43:15
But the American people have a
president who was businessman, who's

20:27:43:16 20:27:45:06
a job creator, who's

20:27:45:07 20:27:46:06
paid tens of millions

20:27:47:12 20:27:49:18
of dollars in taxes, payroll

20:27:50:07 20:27:51:09
taxes, property taxes.

20:27:51:10 20:27:52:20
He's created tens of thousands

20:27:53:10 20:27:54:12
of American jobs.

20:27:54:19 20:27:56:09
And the president said those public

20:27:56:10 20:27:57:19
reports are not

20:27:58:05 20:27:59:23
accurate. And and the president also

20:27:59:24 20:28:01:07
released literally stacks of

20:28:01:20 20:28:03:12
financial disclosures the American

20:28:03:15 20:28:04:17
people can review just

20:28:05:13 20:28:06:13
as the law allows.

20:28:06:17 20:28:08:09
But the distinction here

20:28:08:18 20:28:09:19
is that Joe Biden, 47

20:28:11:01 20:28:12:15
years in public service compared

20:28:13:00 20:28:14:11
to President Donald Trump, who

20:28:14:12 20:28:16:01
brought all of that experience four

20:28:16:02 20:28:16:12
years ago.

20:28:16:13 20:28:17:12
Thank you, vice president.

20:28:17:23 20:28:19:05
And turned this economy around by

20:28:19:06 20:28:20:17
cutting taxes, rolling back

20:28:20:18 20:28:20:23
regulation.

20:28:21:08 20:28:22:08
Thank you. Thank you, Vice President
Pence.

20:28:22:20 20:28:23:22
American energy, fighting for free

20:28:23:23 20:28:25:20
and fair trade and all of

20:28:26:01 20:28:27:12
that's online if Joe Biden and

20:28:28:03 20:28:28:20
Kamala Harris.

20:28:28:21 20:28:30:13
You know, that's a great segue into

20:28:30:14 20:28:31:19
our third topic, which is

20:28:32:12 20:28:33:12
about the economy.

20:28:33:16 20:28:35:04
This has been another aspect of

20:28:35:13 20:28:37:04
life for Americans that's been so

20:28:37:07 20:28:38:24
affected by this

20:28:39:22 20:28:41:11
coronavirus. We have a jobs crisis

20:28:42:04 20:28:43:16
brewing. On Friday, we learned that

20:28:43:17 20:28:45:08
the unemployment rate had declined

20:28:45:12 20:28:46:19
to seven point nine percent in

20:28:47:08 20:28:48:20
September, but that job growth had

20:28:48:21 20:28:50:06
stalled and that was before the

20:28:50:07 20:28:51:12
latest round of layoffs and

20:28:51:13 20:28:53:02
furloughs in the airline

20:28:53:12 20:28:54:23
industry, at Disney and elsewhere.

20:28:54:24 20:28:56:15
Hundreds of thousands of discouraged

20:28:56:16 20:28:57:25
workers have stopped looking for

20:28:58:09 20:28:59:12
work. Nearly 11 million

20:29:00:06 20:29:01:17
jobs that existed at the beginning

20:29:01:18 20:29:03:20
of the year haven't been replaced.

20:29:03:21 20:29:05:01
Those hardest hit include

20:29:05:21 20:29:07:11
Latinos, blacks and women.

20:29:07:23 20:29:09:19
Senator Harris, the Biden Harris

20:29:09:24 20:29:11:14
campaign has proposed new programs

20:29:11:15 20:29:12:11
to boost the economy.

20:29:12:12 20:29:13:15
And you would pay for that

20:29:14:06 20:29:15:16
new spending by raising four

20:29:15:17 20:29:17:03
trillion dollars in taxes on welathy
individuals and corporations. Some

20:29:17:04 20:29:18:16
economists warn that could curb
entrepreneurial ventures that fuel
growth

20:29:18:17 20:29:19:21
and create jobs. Would raising taxes
put the recovery at

20:29:31:17 20:29:32:17
risk? And you have two minutes to

20:29:32:18 20:29:33:18
answer uninterrupted.

20:29:34:04 20:29:35:04
Thank you.

20:29:36:11 20:29:38:05
On the issue of the economy, I think

20:29:38:06 20:29:39:14
there couldn't be a more fundamental

20:29:39:15 20:29:41:13
difference between Donald Trump

20:29:41:14 20:29:42:15
and Joe Biden.

20:29:43:12 20:29:45:04
Joe Biden believes you measure the

20:29:45:08 20:29:47:02
health and the strength of America's

20:29:47:06 20:29:48:15
economy based on the health

20:29:49:12 20:29:51:01
and the strength of the American

20:29:51:06 20:29:52:20
worker and the American

20:29:53:07 20:29:54:05
family.

20:29:54:06 20:29:55:19
On the other hand, you have Donald

20:29:56:03 20:29:57:21
Trump, who measures the strength of

20:29:57:22 20:29:59:07
the economy based on how rich

20:29:59:18 20:30:01:04
people are doing, which is why

20:30:01:20 20:30:03:08
he passed a tax bill benefiting

20:30:04:05 20:30:05:23
the top one percent and the biggest

20:30:06:05 20:30:07:09
corporations of America,

20:30:08:01 20:30:09:01
leading to a two

20:30:09:24 20:30:11:14
trillion dollar deficit that the

20:30:11:15 20:30:12:21
American people are going to have to

20:30:12:22 20:30:13:21
pay for.

20:30:14:05 20:30:16:00
On day one, joe Biden

20:30:16:11 20:30:17:18
will repeal that tax bill.

20:30:18:03 20:30:19:05
He'll get rid of it.

20:30:19:14 20:30:21:02
And what he'll do with the money is

20:30:21:03 20:30:22:11
invest it in the American

20:30:22:23 20:30:24:11
people. And through a plan that

20:30:24:20 20:30:25:20
is about investing in

20:30:26:09 20:30:27:05
infrastructure, something that Donald

20:30:27:06 20:30:28:01
Trump said he would do.

20:30:28:02 20:30:29:04
I remember hearing about some

20:30:29:05 20:30:29:25
infrastructure week.

20:30:29:26 20:30:31:01
I don't think it ever happened.

20:30:31:02 20:30:32:05
But Joe Biden will do that.

20:30:32:06 20:30:33:09
He'll invest in infrastructure.

20:30:33:10 20:30:34:20
It's about upgrading our roads and

20:30:35:05 20:30:36:24
bridges, but also investing in clean

20:30:37:00 20:30:38:09
energy and renewable energy.

20:30:38:22 20:30:41:02
Joe is going to invest that money

20:30:41:03 20:30:42:12
in what we need to do around

20:30:43:08 20:30:45:00
innovation. There was a time when

20:30:45:01 20:30:46:23
our country believed in science

20:30:47:19 20:30:49:03
and invested in research and

20:30:49:11 20:30:51:11
development so that we were

20:30:51:15 20:30:52:19
an innovation leader on

20:30:53:12 20:30:54:10
the globe.

20:30:54:11 20:30:55:24
Joe Biden will use that money to

20:30:56:00 20:30:57:24
invest in education.

20:30:58:02 20:30:59:20
So, for example, for folks who want

20:30:59:21 20:31:01:02
to go to a two year community

20:31:01:13 20:31:02:16
college, it will be free.

20:31:02:17 20:31:04:09
If you come from a family that makes

20:31:04:10 20:31:05:09
less than one hundred and twenty

20:31:05:10 20:31:07:01
five thousand dollars, you'll go to

20:31:07:02 20:31:08:13
a public university for

20:31:08:22 20:31:10:20
free. And across the board

20:31:10:21 20:31:12:09
we'll make sure that if you have

20:31:12:10 20:31:14:01
student loan debt, it's cut by ten

20:31:14:04 20:31:15:04
thousand dollars.

20:31:15:11 20:31:17:01
That's how Joe Biden thinks about

20:31:17:02 20:31:18:12
the economy, which is it's about

20:31:18:13 20:31:19:24
investing in the people of our

20:31:20:06 20:31:21:24
country as opposed to passing a tax

20:31:22:11 20:31:24:04
bill which had the benefit

20:31:24:07 20:31:26:03
of letting American corporations

20:31:26:11 20:31:28:09
go offshore to do their

20:31:28:23 20:31:29:23
business.

20:31:30:01 20:31:31:08
Thank you, Senator Harris.

20:31:31:13 20:31:32:13
Vice President Pence, your

20:31:32:14 20:31:34:01
administration has been predicting a

20:31:34:02 20:31:35:04
rapid and robust

20:31:35:24 20:31:37:10
recovery, but the latest economic

20:31:37:11 20:31:38:18
report suggests that's not

20:31:39:09 20:31:40:20
happening. Should Americans be

20:31:40:21 20:31:42:24
braced for an economic comeback

20:31:43:00 20:31:44:06
that is going to take not months,

20:31:44:07 20:31:45:06
but a year or more?

20:31:45:22 20:31:47:07
You have two minutes to answer

20:31:47:08 20:31:48:07
uninterrupted.

20:31:49:03 20:31:50:05
When President Trump and I took

20:31:50:18 20:31:52:03
office, America had gone through the

20:31:52:04 20:31:53:19
slowest economic recovery since the

20:31:53:20 20:31:55:02
Great Depression.

20:31:55:11 20:31:56:11
So when Joe Biden was vice

20:31:56:21 20:31:57:24
president, they tried to tax and

20:31:58:00 20:31:59:12
spend and regulate and bail our

20:31:59:22 20:32:01:22
way back to a growing economy.

20:32:02:03 20:32:03:17
President Trump cut taxes across

20:32:04:01 20:32:05:24
the board. Despite what

20:32:06:05 20:32:07:18
Senator Harris says, the average

20:32:07:19 20:32:09:06
American family of four had two

20:32:09:10 20:32:10:21
thousand dollars in savings in

20:32:11:09 20:32:12:09
taxes. And with

20:32:13:07 20:32:15:01
the rise in wages that occurred,

20:32:15:12 20:32:16:21
most predominantly for blue

20:32:17:08 20:32:19:01
collar, hard working Americans, the

20:32:19:09 20:32:20:20
average household income for a

20:32:21:03 20:32:22:16
family of four increased by four

20:32:22:17 20:32:24:10
thousand dollars following President

20:32:24:14 20:32:25:21
Trump's tax cuts.

20:32:25:24 20:32:27:12
But America, you just heard Senator

20:32:27:13 20:32:28:12
Harris tell you.

20:32:28:15 20:32:30:10
On day one, Joe

20:32:30:11 20:32:32:07
Biden is going to raise your taxes.

20:32:32:09 20:32:33:15
It's really remarkable to think.

20:32:33:16 20:32:34:02
That's not what I said.

20:32:34:03 20:32:35:16
I mean, right after a time where
we're going through a pandemic that
lost

20:32:35:17 20:32:37:02
22 million jobs at the height, we've
already added back 11.6 million

20:32:37:03 20:32:38:13
jobs, because we had a president who
cut taxes, rolled back regulation

20:32:38:14 20:32:38:20
and unleashed

20:32:48:21 20:32:50:12
American energy, fought for free and

20:32:50:13 20:32:51:22
fair trade, and secured four

20:32:52:10 20:32:54:02
trillion dollars from the Congress

20:32:54:08 20:32:56:01
of the United States to give direct

20:32:56:03 20:32:57:13
payments to families, save 50

20:32:58:09 20:32:59:24
million jobs through the paycheck

20:33:00:00 20:33:00:24
protection program.

20:33:01:08 20:33:03:01
We literally have spared no expense

20:33:03:06 20:33:04:15
to help the American people and the

20:33:04:16 20:33:06:01
American worker through this.

20:33:06:06 20:33:07:20
Joe Biden and Kamala Harris want

20:33:08:07 20:33:09:07
to raise taxes.

20:33:09:12 20:33:11:05
They want to bury our economy under

20:33:11:08 20:33:13:03
a two trillion dollar Green New

20:33:13:14 20:33:14:19
Deal, which you were one of the

20:33:14:20 20:33:16:06
original co-sponsors of in the

20:33:16:09 20:33:17:19
United States Senate.

20:33:17:20 20:33:19:08
And they want to abolish fossil

20:33:19:09 20:33:20:23
fuels and ban

20:33:21:13 20:33:22:17
fracking, which would cost hundreds

20:33:22:18 20:33:23:21
of thousands of American

20:33:24:15 20:33:26:02
jobs all across the heartland.

20:33:26:14 20:33:28:05
And Joe Biden wants to go back to

20:33:28:09 20:33:29:22
the economic surrender of China

20:33:30:04 20:33:31:16
that when we took office, half

20:33:32:00 20:33:33:16
of our international trade deficit

20:33:33:17 20:33:34:16
was with China alone.

20:33:35:10 20:33:37:04
And Joe Biden wants to repeal all of

20:33:37:07 20:33:39:01
the tariffs that President Trump put

20:33:39:07 20:33:40:21
into effect to fight for American

20:33:40:22 20:33:42:03
jobs and American workers.

20:33:42:18 20:33:44:07
Joe Biden says democracy is on the

20:33:44:16 20:33:46:04
ballot. Make no mistake about it,

20:33:46:12 20:33:47:11
Susan.

20:33:47:12 20:33:49:06
The American economy, the American

20:33:49:07 20:33:51:03
comeback is on the ballot

20:33:51:13 20:33:53:01
with four more years of growth.

20:33:53:03 20:33:53:12
Thank you.

20:33:53:13 20:33:54:22
And opportunity and four more years

20:33:54:23 20:33:56:06
of President Donald Trump.

20:33:56:07 20:33:57:19
Twenty twenty one is going to be the
biggest eonomic year in the history

20:33:57:20 20:33:58:02
of this country.

20:33:58:03 20:33:59:02
Thank you, Vice President Pence.
Senator Harris?

20:33:59:03 20:34:00:15
Well, I mean, I thought we saw enough
of it in last week's debate. But I

20:34:00:16 20:34:02:02
think this is supposed to be a debate
based on fact and truth. And the

20:34:02:03 20:34:03:13
truth and the fact is Joe Biden has
been very clear he will not raise

20:34:03:14 20:34:04:22
taxes on anybody who makes less than
400 thousand dollars a year.

20:34:04:23 20:34:05:23
He siad he's going to repeal the
Trump tax cuts.

20:34:05:24 20:34:06:22
Mr. Vice President, I'm speaking. I'm
speaking.

20:34:06:23 20:34:08:07
The importance is that you say the
truth. Joe Biden has said twice

20:34:25:03 20:34:26:09
in the debate last week that he's

20:34:26:10 20:34:27:20
going to repeal the Trump tax

20:34:28:06 20:34:29:15
cuts. That was tax cuts that

20:34:30:02 20:34:31:16
gave the average working family

20:34:32:01 20:34:34:02
two thousand dollars in a tax

20:34:34:13 20:34:36:03
break every single year, senator.

20:34:36:04 20:34:36:11
That's a laugh.

20:34:36:12 20:34:38:02
That is absolutely not

20:34:38:03 20:34:38:05
true.

20:34:38:15 20:34:40:08
Is he only cutting is he only going

20:34:40:10 20:34:41:23
to repeal part of the Trump tax

20:34:41:24 20:34:42:01
cuts?

20:34:42:10 20:34:44:04
If you don't mind letting me finish.

20:34:44:11 20:34:45:25
We can then have a conversation.

20:34:46:08 20:34:46:20
OK?

20:34:46:21 20:34:47:06
Please.

20:34:47:07 20:34:48:06
OK, Joe

20:34:49:04 20:34:50:23
Biden will not raise taxes on anyone

20:34:51:03 20:34:52:21
who makes less than 400000 pounds a

20:34:53:01 20:34:54:03
year. He has been very clear about

20:34:54:09 20:34:55:15
that. Joe Biden will not.

20:34:55:16 20:34:57:10
And fracking, he has been very clear

20:34:57:11 20:34:58:11
about that.

20:34:59:17 20:35:00:17
Joe Biden is

20:35:01:19 20:35:02:21
the one who during the

20:35:03:17 20:35:06:03
the Great Recession was responsible

20:35:07:02 20:35:08:17
for the Recovery Act that brought

20:35:09:04 20:35:10:00
America back.

20:35:10:01 20:35:11:15
And now the Trump administration

20:35:12:13 20:35:13:15
wants to take credit

20:35:14:20 20:35:16:08
when they ran when they rode the

20:35:16:16 20:35:17:21
coattails of Joe Biden's

20:35:18:13 20:35:19:16
success for to economy that they had

20:35:19:17 20:35:21:04
at the beginning of their term. Of
course, now the economy is a complete

20:35:21:05 20:35:22:16
disaster. But Joe Biden on the one
hand did that. On the other hand you

20:35:22:17 20:35:23:21
have Donald Trump, who has reigned
over a recession that

20:35:33:15 20:35:34:22
being compared to the Great

20:35:35:17 20:35:36:22
Depression. On the one hand, you

20:35:36:23 20:35:38:01
have Joe Biden, who was

20:35:38:23 20:35:40:14
responsible with President Barack

20:35:40:23 20:35:42:19
Obama for the Affordable Care

20:35:43:04 20:35:44:17
Act, which brought health care to

20:35:44:18 20:35:45:23
over 20 million Americans

20:35:46:16 20:35:47:16
and protected people with

20:35:47:17 20:35:48:19
preexisting conditions.

20:35:48:20 20:35:50:02
And what it also did is it

20:35:50:17 20:35:52:09
saved those families who otherwise

20:35:52:16 20:35:54:13
were going bankrupt because of

20:35:54:14 20:35:55:19
hospital bills they could not

20:35:56:09 20:35:58:00
afford. On the other hand, you have

20:35:58:01 20:35:59:11
Donald Trump, who's in court right

20:35:59:18 20:36:01:07
now, trying to get rid of thank you

20:36:01:10 20:36:02:19
for trying to get rid of the

20:36:02:25 20:36:04:14
Affordable Care Act, which means

20:36:04:24 20:36:06:20
that you will lose protections

20:36:06:21 20:36:08:13
if you have preexisting conditions.

20:36:08:14 20:36:10:07
And I just this is very important,

20:36:10:09 20:36:10:15
Suzanne.

20:36:10:16 20:36:11:20
Yes. And it's about we need to we

20:36:11:21 20:36:13:01
need to get vice president, just

20:36:13:02 20:36:13:08
like -

20:36:13:09 20:36:14:23
He interrupted me and I'd like to

20:36:14:24 20:36:15:19
just finish. Please.

20:36:15:20 20:36:16:19
If

20:36:17:24 20:36:20:04
you have a preexisting condition,

20:36:20:05 20:36:22:04
heart disease, diabetes, breast

20:36:22:19 20:36:24:02
cancer, they're coming for you.

20:36:24:24 20:36:26:10
If you love someone who has a

20:36:26:13 20:36:27:15
preexisting condition.

20:36:27:16 20:36:29:08
Thank you. Thank something for you.

20:36:29:13 20:36:30:25
If you are under the age of 26

20:36:31:09 20:36:32:25
on your parents coverage, they're

20:36:33:02 20:36:33:23
coming for you.

20:36:33:24 20:36:35:08
Senator Harris, thank you.

20:36:35:09 20:36:36:24
Let me give you a chance to respond.

20:36:37:00 20:36:37:21
Well, I hope we have a chance to talk

20:36:37:22 20:36:39:08
about health care because Obamacare

20:36:39:09 20:36:41:02
was a disaster for the American

20:36:41:10 20:36:42:13
people. Remember it well.

20:36:43:07 20:36:44:17
President Trump and I have a plan

20:36:45:04 20:36:46:18
to to improve health care and

20:36:47:11 20:36:49:03
protect preexisting conditions for

20:36:49:11 20:36:51:19
every American.

20:36:51:20 20:36:53:03
But look at Senator Harris.

20:36:53:08 20:36:54:16
You're you're entitled to your own

20:36:55:00 20:36:55:21
opinion, but you're not entitled to

20:36:55:22 20:36:57:04
your own facts.

20:36:57:05 20:36:58:17
You, yourself said on multiple

20:36:58:23 20:37:00:09
occasions when you were running for

20:37:00:10 20:37:02:05
president that you would ban

20:37:02:19 20:37:03:19
fracking.

20:37:03:20 20:37:05:11
Joe Biden looked at a supporter in

20:37:05:14 20:37:07:07
the eye and pointed and

20:37:07:15 20:37:10:01
said, I guarantee I guarantee

20:37:10:12 20:37:12:03
that we will abolish fossil

20:37:12:18 20:37:14:06
fuels. They have a two trillion

20:37:14:07 20:37:15:14
dollar version of the Green New

20:37:15:22 20:37:17:01
Deal, Susan, that your newspaper,

20:37:17:02 20:37:18:11
USA Today, said really wasn't

20:37:19:01 20:37:20:11
that very different from the

20:37:20:14 20:37:22:06
original Green New Deal.

20:37:22:10 20:37:24:24
More taxes, more regulation

20:37:25:06 20:37:26:15
banning fracking, abolishing

20:37:27:19 20:37:29:05
fossil fuel, crushing American

20:37:29:17 20:37:31:15
energy and economic surrender to

20:37:31:16 20:37:32:19
China is a prescription

20:37:33:19 20:37:34:20
for economic decline.

20:37:35:11 20:37:36:25
President Trump and I will keep

20:37:37:04 20:37:38:04
America growing.

20:37:38:16 20:37:40:10
The V shape recovery that's underway

20:37:40:21 20:37:42:05
right now will continue with

20:37:42:17 20:37:44:05
four more years of President Donald

20:37:44:12 20:37:44:20
Trump.

20:37:44:21 20:37:46:04
Thank you very, very much, Vice

20:37:46:05 20:37:47:10
President Pence. Once again, you've

20:37:47:11 20:37:49:03
provided the perfect segue way to a

20:37:49:04 20:37:51:10
new topic, which is climate change.

20:37:51:11 20:37:52:21
And Vice President Pence, I'd like to
pose the first question to you.

20:37:52:22 20:37:54:09
This year we've seen record setting
hurricanes in the South. Another one,

20:37:54:10 20:37:55:22
hurricane Delta is threatening the
Gulf, and we have seen record setting

20:37:55:23 20:37:57:09
wildfires in the West. Do you
believe, as the scientific community
has

20:37:57:10 20:37:58:22
concluded, that man made climate
change has made wildfires bigger,
hotter

20:37:58:23 20:38:00:07
and more deadly. And it has made
hurricanes wetter, slower and more

20:38:32:12 20:38:33:11
damaging. You have two minutes
uninterrupted.

20:38:33:12 20:38:34:20
Thank you Susan. Well first, I'm very
proud of our record on the

20:38:34:21 20:38:36:07
environment and on conservation.
According to all of the best
estimates,

20:38:36:08 20:38:37:02
our Air and land are cleaner than any

20:38:37:03 20:38:37:16
time ever recorded, and our

20:38:37:17 20:38:38:08
waters, among the cleanest in the

20:38:38:09 20:38:39:04
world. And just a little while

20:38:39:10 20:38:40:08
ago, the president signed the

20:38:40:09 20:38:41:17
Outdoors Act. It's the largest

20:38:41:18 20:38:43:09
investment in our public lands and

20:38:43:14 20:38:45:17
public parks in 100

20:38:46:02 20:38:47:13
years. So President Trump has

20:38:48:01 20:38:49:17
made a commitment to conservation

20:38:49:19 20:38:51:02
and to the environment.

20:38:51:06 20:38:52:23
Now, with regard to climate change,

20:38:53:10 20:38:55:06
the climate is changing,

20:38:55:08 20:38:56:14
but the issue is

20:38:57:07 20:38:58:24
what's the cause and what do we do

20:38:59:01 20:39:00:01
about it?

20:39:00:04 20:39:01:08
President Trump has made it clear

20:39:01:09 20:39:02:05
that we're going to continue to

20:39:02:06 20:39:03:05
listen to the science.

20:39:04:04 20:39:05:10
Now, Joe Biden and Kamala

20:39:06:01 20:39:07:14
Harris would put us back in the

20:39:07:15 20:39:08:09
Paris Climate Accord.

20:39:08:10 20:39:10:06
They'd impose the Green New

20:39:10:16 20:39:12:21
Deal, which would crush American

20:39:13:06 20:39:14:12
energy, would increase the energy

20:39:14:13 20:39:16:08
costs of American families

20:39:16:15 20:39:17:25
in their homes and literally

20:39:18:12 20:39:20:19
would crush American jobs.

20:39:20:20 20:39:22:04
And President Trump and I believe

20:39:22:05 20:39:23:16
that the progress that we have

20:39:24:05 20:39:26:12
made in a cleaner environment

20:39:26:20 20:39:28:15
has been happening precisely because

20:39:28:21 20:39:30:19
we have a strong free market

20:39:31:10 20:39:33:01
economy. You know, what's remarkable

20:39:33:02 20:39:34:15
is the United States has reduced

20:39:35:07 20:39:37:18
CO2 more

20:39:38:02 20:39:39:22
than the countries that are still in

20:39:39:23 20:39:40:23
the Paris Climate Accord,

20:39:40:24 20:39:42:10
but we've done it through innovation.
And we've done it through natural

20:39:42:11 20:39:43:24
gas. And fracking. Which, Senator,
the American people can go look at
the

20:39:44:00 20:39:45:05
record, and I know Joe Biden says
otherwise now, as you do.

20:39:54:18 20:39:56:03
But the both of you repeatedly

20:39:56:04 20:39:57:15
committed to abolishing fossil

20:39:57:24 20:39:58:24
fuel and banning

20:39:59:24 20:40:01:13
fracking. And so by creating the

20:40:01:21 20:40:03:06
kind of American innovation,

20:40:03:22 20:40:05:08
we're actually steering toward a

20:40:05:09 20:40:06:19
stronger and better environment.

20:40:06:25 20:40:08:02
With regard to wildfire.

20:40:09:05 20:40:10:18
President Trump and I believe the

20:40:10:19 20:40:12:08
forest management has to be front

20:40:12:14 20:40:14:07
and center. And even Governor Gavin

20:40:14:09 20:40:15:23
Newsom from your state has agreed

20:40:15:24 20:40:17:00
we've got to work on forest

20:40:17:13 20:40:18:20
management. And with regard to

20:40:19:14 20:40:21:22
hurricanes, the National Oceanic

20:40:22:06 20:40:23:14
Administration tells us that

20:40:23:15 20:40:25:09
actually is as difficult as they

20:40:25:14 20:40:27:05
are. There are no more hurricanes

20:40:27:24 20:40:29:12
today than there were a hundred

20:40:29:13 20:40:30:12
years ago.

20:40:30:15 20:40:31:01
Thank you.

20:40:31:02 20:40:32:17
But many of the climate alarmists

20:40:32:18 20:40:33:17
and hurricanes and

20:40:34:14 20:40:35:21
wildfires to try and sell the

20:40:37:14 20:40:38:14
green new deal.

20:40:39:01 20:40:40:08
And President Trump and I are going

20:40:40:09 20:40:41:20
to always put American jobs,

20:40:41:21 20:40:42:24
American workers first.

20:40:43:17 20:40:45:00
Senator Harris, as the vice

20:40:45:13 20:40:46:22
president mentioned, you co-sponsored

20:40:46:23 20:40:48:18
the green new deal in Congress,

20:40:48:19 20:40:50:04
but Vice President Biden said in

20:40:50:05 20:40:51:22
last week's debate that he does not

20:40:52:00 20:40:54:00
support the Green New Deal.

20:40:54:04 20:40:55:23
But if you look at the Biden Harris

20:40:55:24 20:40:57:15
campaign website, it describes the

20:40:57:18 20:40:59:17
Green New Deal as a crucial

20:41:00:08 20:41:01:22
framework. What exactly would be

20:41:02:06 20:41:03:21
the stance of a Biden Harris

20:41:03:22 20:41:05:02
administration toward the

20:41:05:19 20:41:06:19
Green New Deal?

20:41:06:20 20:41:07:19
You have two minutes

20:41:08:15 20:41:09:04
uninterrupted.

20:41:09:05 20:41:11:00
So first of all, I will

20:41:11:02 20:41:12:13
repeat and the American people

20:41:13:01 20:41:15:05
know that Joe Biden

20:41:15:09 20:41:17:05
will not ban fracking, that

20:41:17:07 20:41:18:19
is a fact.

20:41:18:22 20:41:20:14
That is a fact.

20:41:20:24 20:41:22:15
I will repeat

20:41:23:02 20:41:24:11
that Joe Biden has been very

20:41:25:05 20:41:26:05
clear that he thinks

20:41:27:04 20:41:28:09
about growing jobs, which

20:41:29:00 20:41:30:22
is why he will not increase taxes

20:41:30:23 20:41:32:02
for anyone who makes less than

20:41:32:03 20:41:33:15
$400,000 a

20:41:33:24 20:41:34:19
year.

20:41:34:20 20:41:37:00
Joe Biden's economic plan,

20:41:37:19 20:41:39:07
Moody's, which is a reputable Wall

20:41:39:08 20:41:41:09
Street firm, has said will create

20:41:41:20 20:41:43:17
7 million more jobs than

20:41:43:18 20:41:44:18
Donald Trump's.

20:41:44:19 20:41:46:11
And part of those jobs that will be

20:41:46:16 20:41:47:21
created by Joe Biden are

20:41:48:13 20:41:50:00
going to be about clean energy

20:41:50:14 20:41:52:06
and renewable energy.

20:41:52:18 20:41:55:00
Because, you see, Joe understands

20:41:55:06 20:41:56:13
that the west coast of our

20:41:57:02 20:41:58:13
country is burning, including

20:41:59:05 20:42:00:14
my home state of California.

20:42:01:05 20:42:03:01
Joe sees what is happening

20:42:03:06 20:42:04:24
on the Gulf states, which are being

20:42:05:03 20:42:06:03
battered by storms.

20:42:06:18 20:42:08:12
Joe has seen and talked with

20:42:08:15 20:42:09:22
the farmers in Iowa, whose

20:42:10:15 20:42:12:09
entire crops have been destroyed

20:42:12:11 20:42:13:11
because of floods.

20:42:14:01 20:42:15:21
And so Joe believes again in

20:42:16:09 20:42:17:14
science. I'll tell you something,

20:42:17:15 20:42:18:21
Susan. I served when I first got to

20:42:18:22 20:42:20:16
the Senate on the committee that's

20:42:20:17 20:42:21:22
responsible for the environment.

20:42:21:23 20:42:23:07
Do you know this administration

20:42:23:23 20:42:25:04
took the word science off

20:42:25:24 20:42:26:24
the website and

20:42:28:00 20:42:29:23
then took the phrase climate change

20:42:29:24 20:42:31:17
off the website?

20:42:31:24 20:42:33:09
We have seen a pattern with this

20:42:33:25 20:42:34:23
administration, which is they don't
believe

20:42:34:24 20:42:35:23
in science.

20:42:36:02 20:42:37:14
And Joe's plan is about saying

20:42:38:02 20:42:39:04
we're going to deal with it, but

20:42:39:05 20:42:40:18
we're also going to create jobs.

20:42:40:21 20:42:42:12
Donald Trump, when asked about the

20:42:42:16 20:42:44:16
wildfires in California and

20:42:44:17 20:42:45:19
the question was, you know, the

20:42:45:20 20:42:46:18
science is telling us this.

20:42:46:19 20:42:48:04
You know what Donald Trump said?

20:42:48:05 20:42:49:16
Science doesn't know.

20:42:52:06 20:42:53:17
So let's talk about who is prepared

20:42:53:18 20:42:54:22
to lead our country over

20:42:55:13 20:42:57:04
the course of the next 4 years on

20:42:57:13 20:42:59:05
what is an existential threat

20:42:59:10 20:43:00:12
to us as human beings.

20:43:01:00 20:43:02:14
Joe is about saying we're going to

20:43:02:15 20:43:04:04
invest that in renewable energy,

20:43:04:06 20:43:05:07
which is going to be about the
creation

20:43:05:08 20:43:06:13
of millions of jobs.

20:43:08:11 20:43:09:17
We will achieve net zero emissions

20:43:09:18 20:43:10:20
by 2050, carbon neutral

20:43:11:16 20:43:12:16
by 2035.

20:43:12:20 20:43:14:11
Joe has a plan.

20:43:14:14 20:43:16:00
This has been a lot of talk from the

20:43:16:01 20:43:17:14
Trump administration and really it

20:43:17:15 20:43:19:07
has been to go backward instead of

20:43:19:19 20:43:20:24
forward. We will also reenter the

20:43:21:00 20:43:21:15
Climate Agreement with pride.

20:43:21:16 20:43:23:01
Senator Harris just said that climate
change is an existential threat.

20:43:23:02 20:43:24:11
Vice President Pence, do you believe
that climate change poses an

20:43:24:12 20:43:24:21
existential threat?

20:43:24:22 20:43:24:22
As

20:43:33:09 20:43:34:23
I said, Susan, the climate is

20:43:35:11 20:43:37:04
changing. We'll follow the science.

20:43:37:09 20:43:39:01
But once

20:43:39:13 20:43:41:01
again, Senator Harris

20:43:42:16 20:43:44:05
is denying the fact that they're

20:43:44:13 20:43:45:23
going to raise taxes on every

20:43:46:07 20:43:47:05
American.

20:43:47:06 20:43:48:22
Joe Biden said twice in the debate

20:43:49:06 20:43:50:12
last week that on day one

20:43:51:10 20:43:53:15
he was going to repeal the Trump tax

20:43:54:01 20:43:55:12
cuts. Those tax cuts delivered

20:43:55:21 20:43:58:01
2000 dollars in tax relief

20:43:58:09 20:44:00:03
to the average family of four across

20:44:00:17 20:44:02:01
America. And with regard to banning

20:44:02:12 20:44:03:08
fracking, I just recommend that

20:44:03:09 20:44:04:15
people look at the record.

20:44:04:25 20:44:06:21
You yourself said repeatedly that

20:44:06:22 20:44:07:22
you would ban fracking.

20:44:07:23 20:44:09:17
You were the first Senate co-sponsor

20:44:10:05 20:44:11:07
of the Green New Deal.

20:44:11:22 20:44:13:20
And while Joe Biden denied the Green

20:44:13:21 20:44:15:04
New Deal, Susan, thank you for

20:44:15:05 20:44:17:03
pointing out the Green New Deal is

20:44:17:04 20:44:18:10
on their campaign website.

20:44:18:18 20:44:20:01
And as USA Today said, it's

20:44:20:14 20:44:21:23
essentially the same plan as

20:44:22:10 20:44:24:03
you co-sponsored with AOC

20:44:24:14 20:44:26:10
when she submitted it in the Senate.

20:44:26:18 20:44:28:03
And you just heard the senator say

20:44:28:04 20:44:29:03
that

20:44:29:04 20:44:30:15
she's going to resubmit America to
the Paris Climate Accord. Look, the

20:44:30:16 20:44:32:03
American people have always cherished
our environment. We'll continue to

20:44:32:04 20:44:33:13
cherish it. We've made great progress
reducing CO2 emissions through

20:44:33:14 20:44:35:01
American innovation and the
development of natural gas through
fracking.

20:44:35:02 20:44:36:11
We don't need a massive 2 trillion
dollar Green New Deal that would

20:44:36:12 20:44:37:23
impose all new mandates on American
businesses and American families.

20:44:37:24 20:44:38:03
Thank you.

20:44:56:07 20:44:57:03
Joe Biden wants us to retrofit four

20:44:57:04 20:44:58:25
million business

20:44:59:17 20:45:01:02
buildings. It makes no sense.

20:45:01:07 20:45:02:07
It will cost jobs.

20:45:02:19 20:45:04:07
President Trump, thank you to

20:45:05:01 20:45:05:24
America. First, he's going to put

20:45:06:00 20:45:07:13
jobs first and we're going to take

20:45:07:20 20:45:09:11
care of our environment and follow

20:45:09:12 20:45:10:11
the science.

20:45:10:17 20:45:11:17
On the issue of jobs.

20:45:12:02 20:45:13:14
Senator, let's talk about that.

20:45:13:24 20:45:15:15
You, the vice president, earlier

20:45:15:16 20:45:17:10
referred to it as part of

20:45:18:03 20:45:20:06
what he thinks is an accomplishment,

20:45:20:14 20:45:22:01
that the president's trade war

20:45:22:11 20:45:23:11
with China.

20:45:23:12 20:45:24:17
You lost that trade war.

20:45:25:05 20:45:26:05
You lost it.

20:45:26:17 20:45:27:24
What ended up happening

20:45:28:15 20:45:30:03
is because of a so-called trade

20:45:30:12 20:45:31:15
war with China, America

20:45:32:09 20:45:33:17
lost three hundred thousand

20:45:33:22 20:45:35:19
manufacturing jobs.

20:45:36:01 20:45:38:11
Farmers have experienced

20:45:38:12 20:45:40:06
bankruptcy because of

20:45:40:10 20:45:42:04
it. We are in a manufacturing

20:45:42:08 20:45:44:05
recession because of

20:45:44:12 20:45:45:12
it. And when we look

20:45:46:12 20:45:48:08
at where this administration has

20:45:48:17 20:45:50:08
been, there are estimates that by

20:45:50:12 20:45:52:04
the end of the term of this

20:45:53:02 20:45:54:20
administration, they will have lost

20:45:55:02 20:45:57:03
more jobs than almost any

20:45:57:07 20:45:58:17
other presidential

20:45:59:25 20:46:01:00
administration. And the American

20:46:01:01 20:46:02:18
people know what I'm talking about.

20:46:02:20 20:46:04:15
You know, I think

20:46:04:17 20:46:05:17
about 20 year olds.

20:46:05:20 20:46:07:08
You know, we have a 20 year old,

20:46:08:11 20:46:09:22
20 something year old, who are

20:46:10:02 20:46:11:05
coming out of high school and

20:46:11:06 20:46:12:01
college right now.

20:46:12:02 20:46:13:12
And you're wondering, is there going

20:46:13:13 20:46:15:03
to be a job there for me?

20:46:15:13 20:46:17:02
We're looking at people who are

20:46:17:07 20:46:18:16
trying to figure how they're

20:46:19:03 20:46:20:24
going to pay rent by the end of the

20:46:21:05 20:46:22:14
month. Almost half of American

20:46:22:15 20:46:24:09
renters are worried about

20:46:24:10 20:46:25:15
whether they're going to be able to

20:46:25:16 20:46:27:12
pay rent by the end of the

20:46:28:01 20:46:29:19
month. This is where the economy is

20:46:30:01 20:46:31:02
in America right now.

20:46:31:03 20:46:32:13
And it is because of the catastrophe
and the failure of leadership of

20:46:32:14 20:46:32:24
this administration.

20:46:33:00 20:46:34:10
Thank you, Senator Harris. Vice
President Pence, let me give just 15

20:46:34:11 20:46:35:11
seconds to respond, because then I
want to move on.

20:46:35:12 20:46:36:03
Well I'd love to respond, look,

20:46:46:01 20:46:47:01
lost the trade

20:46:47:22 20:46:48:17
war with China?

20:46:48:18 20:46:49:23
Joe Biden never fought it.

20:46:50:18 20:46:52:10
Joe Biden has been a cheerleader for

20:46:52:11 20:46:53:24
communist China through over the

20:46:54:01 20:46:55:02
last several decades.

20:46:55:19 20:46:57:15
And again, the

20:46:57:23 20:46:58:25
senator, you're entitled to your

20:46:59:09 20:47:00:08
opinion. You're not entitled to your

20:47:00:09 20:47:01:06
own facts.

20:47:01:07 20:47:02:17
When Joe Biden was vice president,

20:47:02:18 20:47:04:02
we lost 200,000 manufacturing

20:47:05:04 20:47:06:15
jobs and President Obama said

20:47:07:04 20:47:08:08
they were never coming back.

20:47:08:09 20:47:09:20
He said we needed a magic wand to

20:47:09:21 20:47:11:11
bring them back in our first three

20:47:11:18 20:47:12:23
years after we cut taxes

20:47:13:13 20:47:14:25
back, regulation unleashed American

20:47:15:09 20:47:17:02
energy. This administration saw

20:47:17:03 20:47:19:07
500,000 manufacturing

20:47:19:08 20:47:20:07
jobs created.

20:47:20:10 20:47:21:17
And that's exactly the kind of

20:47:21:18 20:47:22:25
growth we're going to continue to

20:47:22:26 20:47:24:17
see as we bring our nation through,

20:47:24:18 20:47:26:02
thank you for, this pandemic.

20:47:26:08 20:47:27:08
A green new deal,

20:47:28:05 20:47:29:21
mandate for Paris climate accord.

20:47:30:02 20:47:31:14
It's going to kill jobs this time,

20:47:31:15 20:47:33:01
just like it killed jobs.

20:47:33:06 20:47:34:13
I just want to respond very

20:47:34:24 20:47:36:04
qucickly, 15 seconds and I can't

20:47:36:09 20:47:37:09
move. Thank you.

20:47:38:07 20:47:39:11
Joe Biden is responsible

20:47:40:05 20:47:42:08
for saving America's auto

20:47:42:21 20:47:44:12
industry, and you voted against it.

20:47:44:19 20:47:46:09
So let's set the record straight.

20:47:46:20 20:47:47:20
Thank you.

20:47:48:00 20:47:49:11
I'd like to talk about China.

20:47:49:20 20:47:50:20
We have as our next

20:47:51:17 20:47:53:25
topic, we have no more complicated

20:47:54:00 20:47:55:05
or consequential foreign

20:47:55:17 20:47:57:08
relationship than the one with

20:47:57:20 20:47:59:02
China. It is a huge market

20:47:59:17 20:48:01:06
for American agricultural goods.

20:48:01:08 20:48:02:17
It's a potential partner in

20:48:03:06 20:48:04:08
dealing with climate change and

20:48:04:09 20:48:05:16
North Korea.

20:48:05:22 20:48:07:12
And in a video tonight, President

20:48:07:15 20:48:09:07
Trump again blamed it for the

20:48:10:07 20:48:12:03
coronavirus, saying China will pay.

20:48:12:16 20:48:14:06
Vice President Pence, how would you

20:48:14:07 20:48:15:16
describe our our fundamental

20:48:16:14 20:48:18:04
relationship with China?

20:48:18:22 20:48:20:03
Competitors, adversaries,

20:48:20:18 20:48:22:05
enemies? You have two minutes.

20:48:22:06 20:48:23:18
Thank you Susan. Before I leave that
let me speak to voting records if I

20:48:23:19 20:48:25:04
can. Everybody knows that NAFTA
caused literally thousands of
American

20:48:25:05 20:48:26:14
factories to close. We saw automotive
jobs go south of the border.

20:48:26:15 20:48:27:20
President Trump fought to renegotiate
NAFTA and the United

20:48:27:21 20:48:29:07
States/Mexico/Canada agreement is now
the law of the land. The American

20:48:29:08 20:48:29:23
people deserve to know, Senator

20:48:49:06 20:48:50:21
Kamala Harris was one of only ten

20:48:50:23 20:48:52:11
members of the Senate to vote

20:48:52:12 20:48:53:24
against the US MCA. It was a huge win
for American autoworkers. It was a

20:48:54:00 20:48:55:12
huge win for American farmers,
especially dairy in the upper
midwest. But

20:48:55:13 20:48:56:25
Senator you said it didn't go far
enough on climate change. That you
put

20:48:56:26 20:48:58:13
your radical environmental agenda
ahead of American autoworkers and
ahead

20:48:58:14 20:49:00:02
of American jobs. The American people
deserve to know that. It's probably

20:49:20:01 20:49:21:08
why Newweek Magazine said Harris was

20:49:21:09 20:49:22:20
the most liberal member of the

20:49:22:22 20:49:24:01
United States Senate in 2019.

20:49:24:24 20:49:27:01
More liberal than Bernie Sanders,

20:49:27:05 20:49:28:20
more more liberal than any of the

20:49:29:01 20:49:30:19
others in the United States Senate.

20:49:30:22 20:49:32:09
So now, with regard to

20:49:32:21 20:49:33:21
China,

20:49:35:01 20:49:36:09
Susan, first and foremost,

20:49:38:04 20:49:39:10
China is to blame for the

20:49:39:15 20:49:40:15
coronavirus

20:49:42:05 20:49:43:19
and President Trump is not happy

20:49:43:21 20:49:45:10
about it. He's made that very clear,

20:49:45:11 20:49:46:13
made it clear again today.

20:49:47:13 20:49:48:13
China and the World Health

20:49:48:14 20:49:49:21
Organization did not play straight

20:49:49:22 20:49:50:21
with the American people.

20:49:51:07 20:49:52:21
They did not let our personnel

20:49:53:03 20:49:54:14
into China to get information

20:49:55:05 20:49:56:18
on the coronavirus until the middle

20:49:56:19 20:49:58:07
of February.

20:49:58:24 20:50:00:12
Fortunately, President Trump, in

20:50:00:13 20:50:01:24
dealing with China from the outset

20:50:02:00 20:50:03:16
of this administration, standing up

20:50:03:17 20:50:04:20
to China that had been taking

20:50:05:03 20:50:06:21
advantage of America for decades

20:50:07:06 20:50:09:02
in the wake of Joe Biden's

20:50:09:03 20:50:11:03
cheerleading for China, President

20:50:11:04 20:50:12:20
Trump made that decision before the

20:50:12:21 20:50:14:14
end of January to suspend all travel

20:50:14:23 20:50:16:01
from China.

20:50:16:03 20:50:17:14
And again, the American people

20:50:17:15 20:50:19:05
deserve to know Joe Biden opposed

20:50:19:12 20:50:20:20
President Trump's decision to

20:50:20:21 20:50:22:14
suspend all travel from

20:50:23:01 20:50:24:20
China. He said it was hysterical, he

20:50:25:01 20:50:26:01
said it was xenophobic.

20:50:28:10 20:50:29:23
And we're going to continue to stand

20:50:30:11 20:50:31:11
strong.

20:50:31:12 20:50:32:19
We want to improve the relationship.

20:50:32:20 20:50:33:23
We're going to level the playing

20:50:34:04 20:50:35:12
field. We're going to hold China

20:50:35:17 20:50:36:17
accountable for what they did to

20:50:36:18 20:50:38:02
America with the coronavirus.

20:50:38:09 20:50:39:24
Thank you, Senator Harris, let me

20:50:40:04 20:50:41:10
ask you the same question

20:50:42:00 20:50:43:14
that I asked the vice president.

20:50:43:16 20:50:44:23
How would you describe our

20:50:45:11 20:50:46:23
fundamental relationship to

20:50:47:09 20:50:49:11
China? Are we competitors,

20:50:50:03 20:50:51:03
adversaries, enemies?

20:50:51:08 20:50:52:14
You'll have two minutes

20:50:53:09 20:50:54:09
uninterrupted.

20:50:54:25 20:50:56:19
Susan, the Trump

20:50:57:03 20:50:58:13
administration's

20:50:59:05 20:51:00:20
perspective and approach to China

20:51:01:09 20:51:03:11
has resulted in the loss of American

20:51:04:03 20:51:06:11
lives, American jobs

20:51:06:24 20:51:08:12
and America's standing.

20:51:10:07 20:51:11:07
There's a weird obsession

20:51:12:04 20:51:14:00
that President Trump has had

20:51:14:10 20:51:15:25
with getting rid of whatever

20:51:16:09 20:51:17:09
accomplishment was

20:51:18:11 20:51:19:19
achieved by President Obama

20:51:20:15 20:51:21:21
and Vice President Biden.

20:51:21:23 20:51:24:05
For example,

20:51:24:17 20:51:26:17
they created within the White House

20:51:26:21 20:51:28:01
an office that basically

20:51:28:18 20:51:30:05
was responsible for monitoring

20:51:31:02 20:51:31:22
pandemics.

20:51:31:23 20:51:33:17
They got away. They got rid of it.

20:51:34:22 20:51:35:22
There was a team

20:51:36:23 20:51:38:15
of disease experts

20:51:39:02 20:51:40:21
that President Obama

20:51:40:24 20:51:42:17
and Vice President Biden dispatched

20:51:43:10 20:51:45:21
to China to monitor

20:51:46:07 20:51:48:05
what is now predictable

20:51:48:06 20:51:49:19
and what might happen. They pulled

20:51:49:20 20:51:50:19
them out.

20:51:51:03 20:51:53:04
We now are looking at

20:51:53:09 20:51:54:09
210,000

20:51:55:20 20:51:57:03
Americans who have lost their

20:51:57:19 20:51:58:19
lives.

20:51:59:00 20:52:01:07
Let's look at the job situation

20:52:01:08 20:52:03:08
we mentioned before, the trade

20:52:03:17 20:52:05:09
deal, the trade war

20:52:05:10 20:52:06:21
they wanted to call it with China. It
resulted in the loss of over 300

20:52:06:22 20:52:08:06
manufacturing jobs and a
manufacturing recession, and the
American

20:52:08:07 20:52:09:19
consumer paid thousands of dollars
more for goods because of that failed

20:52:09:20 20:52:11:04
war, they called it. Then lets talk
about standing. Pew, a reputable

20:52:11:05 20:52:12:16
research firm, has done an analysis
that shows that leaders of all our

20:52:33:08 20:52:34:08
formerly allied countries

20:52:36:05 20:52:37:20
decided that they hold in greater

20:52:38:04 20:52:39:11
esteem and respect

20:52:40:21 20:52:42:06
XiXi JinPing, the head of the

20:52:42:16 20:52:44:01
Chinese Communist Party, than

20:52:44:16 20:52:46:17
they do Donald Trump, the president

20:52:46:18 20:52:48:05
of the United States, the commander

20:52:48:06 20:52:49:17
in chief of the United States.

20:52:49:19 20:52:51:11
This is where we are today

20:52:52:04 20:52:53:08
because of a failure of

20:52:54:04 20:52:55:05
leadership by this

20:52:56:02 20:52:57:02
administration.

20:52:57:20 20:52:59:12
Senator Harris, we've seen changes

20:52:59:23 20:53:01:12
in the in the role of the United

20:53:01:22 20:53:03:20
States in terms of global leadership

20:53:04:01 20:53:05:24
over the past four years.

20:53:06:01 20:53:07:19
And, of course, times do change.

20:53:08:01 20:53:09:04
What's your definition?

20:53:09:12 20:53:11:01
We've seen strains with China, of

20:53:11:02 20:53:12:12
course, as the Vice President
mentioned. We've seen strains with
our

20:53:12:13 20:53:13:08
traditional allies in NATO and
elsewhere.

20:53:13:09 20:53:14:19
What is your definition of the role
of American leadership in 2020?

20:53:25:21 20:53:27:13
I love talking with Joe about a lot

20:53:27:15 20:53:28:13
of these issues.

20:53:28:14 20:53:30:06
And, you know, Joe, I think he said

20:53:30:12 20:53:31:18
it quite well. He says, you know,

20:53:31:19 20:53:33:07
foreign policy might sound

20:53:33:22 20:53:35:06
complicated, but really, it's
relationships.

20:53:35:12 20:53:36:12
Just think about it as

20:53:37:00 20:53:38:11
relationships. And so we know

20:53:38:12 20:53:39:23
in our personal and professional
relationships, you've got to keep
your

20:53:39:24 20:53:41:11
word to your friends. You've got to
be loyal to your friends. People who

20:53:41:12 20:53:42:23
have stood with you, you've got to
stand with them. You've got to know

20:53:42:24 20:53:44:10
who your adversaries are, and keep
them in check. But what we have seen

20:53:44:11 20:53:45:20
with Donald Trump is that he has
betrayed our friends and embraced

20:53:45:21 20:53:46:24
dictators around the world. Lets take
for example Russia

20:54:10:21 20:54:12:02
I serve on the Intelligence

20:54:12:03 20:54:13:13
Committee of the United States

20:54:13:22 20:54:14:17
Senate.

20:54:14:18 20:54:16:06
America's intelligence community

20:54:16:17 20:54:17:17
told us Russia

20:54:18:16 20:54:19:24
interfered in the election of the

20:54:20:00 20:54:21:00
president of the United States in

20:54:21:01 20:54:22:23
2016 and his plan in twenty

20:54:23:08 20:54:24:13
twenty. Christopher Wray, the

20:54:24:14 20:54:26:13
director of the FBI, said

20:54:26:14 20:54:27:14
the same.

20:54:27:21 20:54:29:12
But Donald Trump, the commander in

20:54:29:13 20:54:30:17
chief of the United States of

20:54:31:07 20:54:32:23
America, prefers to take the word of

20:54:32:24 20:54:34:11
Vladimir Putin over the word of

20:54:34:20 20:54:36:22
the American intelligence community.

20:54:37:11 20:54:39:05
You look at our friends at

20:54:39:19 20:54:41:24
NATO, he has walked away

20:54:42:03 20:54:43:01
from agreements.

20:54:43:02 20:54:44:20
You can look at the Iran nuclear

20:54:45:03 20:54:46:16
deal, which now has put us in a

20:54:46:24 20:54:48:20
position where

20:54:48:21 20:54:50:11
we are less safe because they are

20:54:50:17 20:54:51:19
building up what might

20:54:52:13 20:54:54:13
end up being a significant nuclear

20:54:55:20 20:54:57:14
arsenal. We were in that

20:54:57:23 20:54:59:08
deal, guys. We were in the Iran

20:54:59:09 20:55:00:15
nuclear deal with friends, with

20:55:00:16 20:55:01:15
allies around

20:55:01:16 20:55:03:04
the country. And because of Donald
Trump's unilateral approach to
foreign

20:55:03:05 20:55:04:14
policy, coupled with his
isolationism, he has pulled us out
and made

20:55:04:15 20:55:06:03
America less safe. So Susan, it's
about relationships. And the thing
that

20:55:15:16 20:55:17:07
has always been part of the strength

20:55:17:08 20:55:19:05
of our nation, in addition to our

20:55:19:06 20:55:20:19
great military, has been that we

20:55:21:02 20:55:21:23
keep our word.

20:55:21:24 20:55:23:16
But Donald Trump doesn't understand

20:55:23:21 20:55:25:18
that because he doesn't understand

20:55:26:01 20:55:27:10
what it means, to be honest.

20:55:28:04 20:55:28:14
Thank you.

20:55:28:15 20:55:28:17
Susan.

20:55:28:18 20:55:30:05
Thank you. Thank you, Senator Harris.
Vice President Pence, I'm going to

20:55:30:06 20:55:30:20
give you a chance to respond.

20:55:30:21 20:55:32:07
Well, thank you. Well, President
Trump kept his word when we moved the

20:55:32:08 20:55:33:20
American embassy to Jersusalem, the
capital of the State of Israel. When

20:55:42:15 20:55:44:01
Joe Biden was vice president, they
promised to do that and they never

20:55:44:02 20:55:44:08
did.

20:55:44:09 20:55:46:01
We stood strong with our

20:55:46:15 20:55:47:15
allies, but we've been demanding.

20:55:48:03 20:55:49:23
NATO is now contributing more to our

20:55:49:24 20:55:51:17
common defense than ever

20:55:52:02 20:55:53:09
before, thanks to President Trump's

20:55:54:05 20:55:55:05
leadership. We've strengthened our

20:55:55:06 20:55:56:05
alliances across

20:55:56:06 20:55:57:17
the Asia Pacific. And we've stood
strong against those who would do us

20:55:57:18 20:55:59:05
harm. You know when President Trump
came into office, ISIS had captured

20:56:09:25 20:56:10:20
an area of the Middle East the size
of

20:56:10:21 20:56:12:09
Pennsylvania. But President Trump

20:56:13:07 20:56:14:25
unleashed the American military

20:56:15:11 20:56:17:03
and our armed forces destroyed the

20:56:17:06 20:56:19:04
ISIS caliphate and took down

20:56:19:05 20:56:20:14
their leader, al-Baghdadi, without

20:56:20:15 20:56:22:14
one American casualty.

20:56:22:20 20:56:23:20
Al Baghdadi

20:56:37:21 20:56:40:05
Today, two of the ISIS

20:56:40:06 20:56:41:08
killers responsible for

20:56:42:02 20:56:43:13
Kayla Mueller's murder

20:56:44:02 20:56:45:07
were brought to justice in the

20:56:45:08 20:56:46:07
United States.

20:56:46:14 20:56:47:22
Jihadi John was killed in the

20:56:48:10 20:56:49:10
battlefield, along with the other

20:56:49:11 20:56:50:11
brutal reality

20:56:51:12 20:56:52:14
is that when Joe Biden

20:56:53:11 20:56:54:12
was vice president, we had an

20:56:54:13 20:56:56:11
opportunity to save

20:56:56:12 20:56:57:11
Kayla Mueller.

20:56:57:23 20:56:59:15
Breaks my heart to reflect on about

20:56:59:16 20:57:00:25
the military, came into the Oval

20:57:01:10 20:57:02:15
Office, presented a plan.

20:57:02:18 20:57:04:14
They said they knew where Kayla

20:57:05:00 20:57:07:06
was. Baghdadi had held her for 18

20:57:07:14 20:57:08:23
months, abused her mercilessly

20:57:08:24 20:57:10:17
before they killed her.

20:57:11:16 20:57:13:07
But when Joe Biden was vice

20:57:13:19 20:57:15:04
president, they hesitated for a

20:57:15:14 20:57:17:09
month. And when armed forces finally

20:57:17:11 20:57:19:00
went in, it was clear she'd been

20:57:19:03 20:57:21:00
moved two days earlier.

20:57:21:01 20:57:22:01
And her family says

20:57:23:02 20:57:24:17
with a heart that broke the heart

20:57:25:01 20:57:26:23
of every American, that if

20:57:26:24 20:57:28:01
President Donald Trump had been

20:57:28:12 20:57:29:13
president, they believe Kayla would

20:57:29:14 20:57:30:12
be alive today.

20:57:30:13 20:57:31:20
Thank you. We destroyed

20:57:45:19 20:57:47:09
got us out of the vice president

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Putin and when Qassem Soleimani

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was traveling to Baghdad.

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Thank you for you. Harm to

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Americans, President Donald Trump.

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Thank you, vice president.

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And America is is

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safer. Our allies are safer.

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And the American people know

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President Donald Trump will never.

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Thank you, vice president, take

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action.

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And I would like to give Senator

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Harris a chance to respond, but not

20:58:07:11 20:58:08:12
at such great length, because, of

20:58:08:18 20:58:09:13
course, there are other topics we

20:58:09:14 20:58:10:06
want to talk about.

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I would like equal time.

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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Please go ahead.

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First of

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all, to the Mueller family.

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I know about your daughter's case

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and I'm so sorry.

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I'm so sorry.

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What happened to her is

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awful.

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And it should have never happened.

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And I know Joe feels the same way,

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and I know that President Obama

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feels the same way.

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But you mentioned Soleimani.

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Let's let's start there.

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So after the strike on

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Soleimani, there was a counter

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strike on our troops

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in Iraq.

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And they

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suffered serious brain

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injuries. And do you know what?
Donald

20:58:55:23 20:58:57:03
Trump dismissed them as?

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Headaches. And this is about a

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pattern of Donald Trump's

20:59:01:18 20:59:03:01
where he has referred

20:59:03:16 20:59:06:02
to our men who are serving

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in our military as suckers and

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losers. Donald Trump,

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who went to Arlington Cemetery

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and stood above the graves

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of our fallen heroes

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and said,

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what's in it for them?

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Because, of course, you know, he

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only thinks about what's in it for

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him. Let's take what he said

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about John McCain,

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a great American hero and Donald
Trump says he doesn't deserve to be

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called a hero because he was a
prsoner of war. And this is very
important

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when you want to talk about

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who is the current commander in

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chief and what they care about

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and what they don't care about.

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Public reporting that Russia

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had bounties on the heads

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of American soldiers.

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And you know what a bounty is?

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It's somebody puts a price

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on your head and they will pay it

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if you are killed.

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And Donald Trump had

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talked at least six times to

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Vladimir Putin

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and never brought up the subject.

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Joe Biden would never do that.

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Joe Biden, Joe Biden

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would hold Russia to account

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for any threat

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to our nation's security or to our

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troops who are

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sacrificing their lives

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for the sake of our democracy and

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our safety.

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Thank you, Senator Harris.

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This is such an important issue, but

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we have other important issues as

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well. And I want to make sure we

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have a chance to really talk about

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that.

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And look, she has 15

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seconds because I gotta have more

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than. Well I'm sorry Vice President
Pence you've had more time than she's

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had so far.

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The slanders against President Donald
Trump regarding men and women of

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our armed forces are absurd.

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I'm sorry Vice President.

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My son is a captain in the United
States Marines Corps, my son-in-law
is

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deployed in the United States Navy, I
can assure all of you, the sons and

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daughters serving in our miltiary,
President Donald Trump not only

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respects but reveres all of

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those who serve in our armed forces.

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And any suggestion otherwise is

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ridiculous.

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American people deserve answers.

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American people decided to know vice

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president. I did not

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Susan. I did not read the notes for

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tonight. Joe Biden.

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Your campaigns agreed to

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the rules for tonight's debate with

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the commission president debates.

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I'm here to enforce them, which

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involves moving from one topic

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to another, giving roughly equal

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time to both of you, which is what

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I'm trying very hard to.

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Go right ahead.

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So I want to go ahead and move to

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the next topic, which is an

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important one as the last topic

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was, and that is the Supreme Court.

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On Monday, the Senate Judiciary

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Committee is scheduled to open

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hearings on Amy Coney Barrett's

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nomination to the Supreme Court.

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Senator Harris, you'll be there as

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a member of the committee.

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Her confirmation would cement the

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court's conservative majority

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and make it more likely open to more

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abortion restrictions, even to

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overturning the landmark Roe v.

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Wade ruling.

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Access to abortion would then be

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up to the states, VIce President
Pence, you're the former governor of

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Indiana, if Roe v. Wade is
overturned, what would you want
Indiana to do?

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Would you want your home state to ban
all abortions? You have two minutes

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uninterrupted.

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Well, thank you for the question,

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but I'll use a little bit of my time

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to respond to that very important

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issue before.

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The American people deserve to know,

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Qassem Soleimani, the Iranian

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general, was responsible for the

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death of hundreds of American

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service members.

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When the opportunity came, we saw

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him headed to Baghdad, kill more

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Americans. President Trump didn't

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hesitate and Qassem Soleimani

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is gone.

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But you deserve to know the Joe

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Biden and Kamala Harris

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actually criticized the decision to

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take out Salim Qassem

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Soleimani. It's really

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inexplicable. But with regard to Joe

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Biden, it's it's explainable

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because history records that Joe

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Biden actually opposed the raid

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against Osama bin Laden.

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It's absolutely essential

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that we have a commander in chief

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who will not hesitate to act to

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protect American lives and to

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protect American service members.

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And that's what you have in

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President Donald Trump.

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Now with regard to the Supreme Court

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of the United States.

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Let me say President Trump and I

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could not be more enthusiastic

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about the opportunity to see Judge

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Amy Coney Barrett become Justice

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Amy Coney Barrett.

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And she's a britlliant woman, and she
will bring a lifetime of experience

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and a sizeable American family to the
Supreme Court of the United States.

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And our hope is that in the hearing
next week, unlike Justice Kavanaugh

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received

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with treatment from you and others,

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we hope she gets a fair

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hearing. And we particularly hope

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that we don't see the kind of

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attacks on her Christian

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faith that we saw

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before.

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The Democrat chairman of the

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Judiciary Committee, before

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when when Judge Barrett

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was being confirmed for the Court

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of Appeals, expressed concern

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that the dogma of her faith

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lived loudly in her.

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Dick Durbin of Illinois said that it

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was a concern.

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Senator, I know one of our judicial

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nominees you actually

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attacked because they were a member

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of the Catholic Knights of Columbus,

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just because the Knights of Columbus

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holds pro-life views.

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Thank you. Thank you, vice

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president. So that when the hearing

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takes place, the thank you vice

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president Judge Amy Coney Barrett

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will be respected.

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Thank you . respectfully voted

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in confirming the Supreme Court of

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the United.

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Senator Harris, you're the senator

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from and former attorney general of

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California. So let me ask you a

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parallel question to the one I posed

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to the vice president.

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If Roe v. Wade is overturned,

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what would you want California

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to do? Would you want your home

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state to enact no restrictions

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on access to abortion?

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And you have 2 minutes uninterrupted.

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Thank you, Susan. First of all, Joe
Biden and I are both people of faith

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and it's insulting to suggest that we
would knock anyne for their

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faith. And in fact, Joe, if

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elected, will be only the second

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practicing Catholic

21:05:16:12 21:05:18:04
as president of the United States.

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On the issue of this of this

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nomination, Joe and I are very clear,
as are the majorit of the American

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people, we are twenty seven days
before the decision about who will be

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the next president of the United
States. And you know before when this

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conversation has come up, it's been
about election

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year or election time.

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We're literally in an

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election.

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Over four million people have

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voted.

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People are in the process of voting

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right now.

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And so Joe has been very clear,

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as the American people are,

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let the American people fill

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that seat in the White House

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and then we'll fill that seat on the

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United States Supreme Court.

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And to your point, Susan, to the

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issues before us couldn't be more

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serious. There's the issue of

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choice. And I will always fight for

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a woman's right to make a decision

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about her own body.

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It should be her decision and not

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that of Donald Trump and and the

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vice president, Michael Pence.

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But let's also look at what else is

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before the court.

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It's the Affordable Care Act.

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Like literally in

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the midst of a public health

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pandemic

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when over two hundred and ten

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thousand people have died and seven

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million people probably

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have what will be in the future

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considered a preexisting condition

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because you contracted the

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virus. Donald Trump is in court

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right now trying to get rid of the

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Affordable Care Act.

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And I said it before and it bears

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repeating.

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This means

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that there will be no more

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protections if they win

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for people with preexisting

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conditions. This means that

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over 20 million people will lose

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your coverage.

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It means that if you're under the

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age of 26, you can't stay

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on your parents' coverage anymore.

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And here's the thing.

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The contrast couldn't be more clear.

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They're trying to get rid of the

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Affordable Care Act.

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Joe Biden is saying, let's expand

21:07:10:24 21:07:12:07
coverage. Let's give you a choice of

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a public option or private

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coverage. Let's bring down premiums.

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The Senate. Let's lower Medicare

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eligibility to 60.

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Thank you, Senator.

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That's true leadership.

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You know, you mentioned

21:07:23:05 21:07:24:18
earlier, Vice President

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Pence, that the president was
committed

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to maintaining protections

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for people with preexisting

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conditions.

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But you do have this court case that

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you are supporting your

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administration's supporting, that

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would strike down the Affordable

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Care Act. The president says,

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President Trump says that he's going

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to protect people with preexisting

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conditions, but he has not explained

21:07:45:04 21:07:46:16
how he would do

21:07:47:00 21:07:47:23
that. And that was one of the

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toughest nuts to crack when they

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were passing the Affordable Care

21:07:51:07 21:07:52:23
Act. So tell us specifically, how

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would your administration protect

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Americans with preexisting

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conditions to have access to

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affordable insurance if the

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Affordable Care Act is struck

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down?

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Well, thank you, Susan.

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But let me just say, addressing

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your very first question, I couldn't
be more proud to serve as vice

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president to a president who stands
without apology for the sanctity of

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human life. I'm pro life. I don't
apologize for it. And this is another

21:08:10:19 21:08:11:14
one of those cases where there's such
a

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dramatic contrast.

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Joe Biden and Kamala Harris support

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taxpayer funding of abortion all

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the way up to the moment of birth,

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late term abortion.

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They want to increase funding to

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Planned Parenthood of America.

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For our part, I would never presume

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how Judge Amy Coney Barrett would

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rule on the Supreme Court

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of the United States, but

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we'll continue to stand strong for

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the right to life.

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When you speak about the Supreme

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Court, though, I think the American

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people really deserve an answer,

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Senator Harris. Are

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you and Joe Biden going to pack the

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court if Judge Amy Coney

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Barrett is confirmed?

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I mean, there've been 29 vacancies

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on the Supreme Court during

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presidential election years from

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George Washington to Barack Obama.

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Presidents have nominated in all 29
cases. But your part is actually

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openly advocating adding seats to the
Supreme Court which has had nine

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seats for 150 years if you don't get
your way.

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This is a classic case of if you

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can't win by the rules, you're going

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to change the rules.

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Now, you've refused to answer the

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question. Joe Biden has refused to

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answer the question.

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So I think the American people would

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really like to know.

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If Judge Amy Coney Barrett is

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confirmed to the Supreme

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Court of the United States, are you
and Joe Biden, if somehow you win

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this election, going to pack the
Supreme Court to get your way?

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I'm so glad we went through a little
hisory lesson. Let's do that a

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little more. In 1864.

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I'd like you to answer the question.

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Yes.

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Mr. Vice president, I'm speaking,

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I'm speaking. OK?

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In 1864

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one of the, I think, political

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heroes,  certainly of the president

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and I assume if you also, Mr. Vice

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President, Is Abraham Lincoln.

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Abraham Lincoln was up

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for reelection and

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it was 27 days before the

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election and

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a seat became open on the United

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States Supreme Court.

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Abraham Lincoln's party was in
charge, not only of the White House,
but

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the Senate. But Honest Abe said,
"It's not the right thing to do. The

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American people deserve to make the
decision about who will be the next

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president of the United States, and
then that person can select who will

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serve for a lifetime on the highest
court of our land." And so Joe and I

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are very clear, the American people
are voting right now,

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and it should be their decision

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about who will serve

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on this most important body

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for a lifetime.

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Thank you, Senator Harris.

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The people, Susan, are voting right

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now. They'd like to know if you and

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Joe Biden are going to pack the

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Supreme Court if you don't

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get your way in this nomination.

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Let's talk about packing...

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That once we get to the

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nonanswer. Joe Biden gave an

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answer. You know, good people

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deserve a straight

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powers,.

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If you haven't figured it out yet,
the straight answer is that they're

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going to pack the Supreme Court, if
they somehow win this election. Men

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and women, I got to tell you, people
across this country, if you cherish

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our Supreme Court, if you cherish the
separation of powers, you need to

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reject the Biden Harris

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ticket. Come November the 3rd

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reelect, President Donald Trump and

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we'll stand by that separation

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powers and a nine seat Supreme

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Court.

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Let's talk about packing the court

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then. Let's talk about.

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I'm about to.

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So.

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The Trump Pence administration

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has been, because I sit on the

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Senate Judiciary Committee, Susan,

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as you mentioned, and I've witnessed

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the appointments for lifetime

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appointments to the federal

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courts, district courts, courts of

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appeal.

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People who are purely

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ideological, people who have been

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reviewed by by legal

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professional organizations and found

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to have been not competent,

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are substandard,

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and do you know that of the 50

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people who

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President Trump appointed

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to the Court of Appeals for lifetime

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appointments, not one is black.

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This is what they've been doing.

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You want to talk about packing a

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court, let's have that discussion.

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Alright, thank you Senator. Let's go
on and talk about the issue of

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racial justice.

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I just want the record to reflect
that she never answered the question,

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but the American people, maybe inthe
next debate, maybe Joe Biden will

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answer the question, but I think the
American people

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know the answer.

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Thank you, Vice President.

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In March, Breeone=a Taylor, a 26

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year old emergency room technician

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in Louisville, was shot and killed

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after police officers executing a

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search warrant on a narcotics

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investigation broke into her

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apartment. The police said they

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identified themselves.

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Taylor's boyfriend said he didn't

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hear them do that.

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He used a gun registered to him to

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fire a shot which wounded an

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officer. The officers then fired

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more than 20 rounds into

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the apartment. The say they were
acting in self defence. None of them

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have been indicted in connection with
her death. Senator Harris, in the

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case of Breeona Taylor, was justice
done? You have two minutes.

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I don't believe so. I've talked with

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Brianna's mother, Tamika Palmer,

21:13:18:05 21:13:19:05
and her family and

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her family deserves justice.

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She was a beautiful young woman.

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She had as her life goal to become

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a nurse and she wanted to become

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an EMT to first learn

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what's going on out on

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the street so she could then

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become a nurse and save lives.

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And her life was taken

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unjustifiably and tragically and

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violently. And it brings me to, you
know, the eight minutes and forty six

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seconds that America witnessed,
during which an American man was
tortured

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and killed under the knee of an
armed, uniformed police officer. And

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people around our country,

21:14:06:25 21:14:09:04
of every race,

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of every age, of every

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gender, perfect strangers to each

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other marched

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shoulder to shoulder, arm in

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arm,

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fighting for us to finally achieve
that ideal of equal justice under
law.

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And.I was a part of those peaceful
protests. And I believe strongly
that,

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first of all, we are never going to

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condone violence, but we always

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must fight

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for the values that we hold

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dear, including the fight to achieve

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our ideals.

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And that's why Joe Biden and I have

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said, on this subject. And look, I'm
a former career prosecutor, I know

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what I'm talking about. Bad cops are
bad for good cops. We need reform of

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our policing in America and our
criminal justice system. Which is why
Joe

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Biden and I, will immediately ban
chokeholds and karate holds. George

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Floydd would be alive today if we did
that. We will require a national

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registry for police officers who
break the law. We will, onthe issue
of

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criminal justice reform, get rid of
private prisons, and cash bail. And

21:14:55:18 21:14:57:05
we will decriminalise marijuana and
we will expunge the records of those

21:14:57:06 21:14:58:15
who have been convicted of marijuana
possession. This is a time for

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leadership on a

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tragic, tragic issue

21:15:30:05 21:15:31:05
of unarmed black people in America
being killed.

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Thank you, Senator Harris.

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Vice President Pence, let me pose

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the same question to you.

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In the case of Breeona Taylor,

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was justice done?

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You have two minutes uninterrupted.

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Well our heart breaks for the loss of
innocent, any innocent American

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life. And the family of Breeona
Taylor has our sympathies. But I
trust

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our justice system. A grand jury that
review the evidences. And it really

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is remarkable that as a former
prosecutor, that you would assume
that an

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empanneled grand jury, looking at the
evidence, got it wrong. But you're

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entitled to your opinion Senator.  I
think, look, with regards to George

21:15:51:06 21:15:52:17
Floyd, there's no excuse to what
happened to George Floyd.  But
there's

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also no excuse for the rioting

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and looting that

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followed.

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I mean, it really is

21:16:29:11 21:16:30:22
astonishing. Flora Westbrook is with

21:16:30:23 21:16:32:18
us here tonight in Salt Lake City.

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This few weeks ago, I stood at what

21:16:35:24 21:16:37:19
used to be a

21:16:38:05 21:16:39:06
her salon, was burned

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to the ground by

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rioters and looters.

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And Flora is still trying

21:16:46:06 21:16:47:06
to put her life back, together.

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And I must tell you this presumption
that you hear consistently

21:17:01:06 21:17:02:19
from Joe Biden and Kamala Harris,
that America is systematically
racist.

21:17:02:20 21:17:03:10
That as Joe Biden said that he

21:17:03:11 21:17:04:10
believes that law enforcement has

21:17:04:17 21:17:05:17
an implicit bias

21:17:06:24 21:17:08:21
against minorities.

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That is a great insult

21:17:13:19 21:17:15:07
to the men and women who serve in

21:17:15:08 21:17:16:23
law enforcement. And I want everyone

21:17:16:24 21:17:18:14
to know who puts on the uniform of

21:17:18:15 21:17:20:02
law enforcement every day.

21:17:20:09 21:17:21:17
President Trump and I stand

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with you.

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And it is remarkable that

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that when Senator Tim Scott tried

21:17:27:14 21:17:29:00
to pass a police reform

21:17:29:10 21:17:30:22
bill, brought together a group of

21:17:30:23 21:17:32:04
Republicans and Democrats.

21:17:32:08 21:17:33:12
Senator Harris, you got

21:17:34:06 21:17:35:13
up and walked out of the room

21:17:36:03 21:17:37:19
and then you filibustered Senator

21:17:38:11 21:17:40:09
Tim Scott's bill on the Senate

21:17:40:18 21:17:41:18
floor that would have provided new

21:17:42:10 21:17:43:15
accountability, new repeat

21:17:43:22 21:17:45:01
resources. But we don't have to
choose

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between supporting law enforcement,

21:17:47:01 21:17:48:07
improving public safety and

21:17:48:08 21:17:50:05
supporting our African-American

21:17:50:11 21:17:52:06
neighbors for all of our minorities

21:17:52:13 21:17:54:04
under President Trump's leadership,

21:17:54:05 21:17:55:16
we will always stand with law
enforcement, and we'll do what we've
done

21:17:55:17 21:17:56:24
from day one and improve the lives of
African Americans. Record

21:17:57:00 21:17:58:11
employment, record investments in
education and we'll fight for school

21:17:58:12 21:17:59:03
choice for all of our minorities.

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I'd

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like to respond.

21:18:09:02 21:18:10:07
Senator Harris.

21:18:10:09 21:18:11:24
I will not sit here and be lectured

21:18:12:00 21:18:13:10
by the vice president on what

21:18:13:23 21:18:15:20
it means to enforce the laws of our

21:18:16:04 21:18:17:04
country. I am the only one on this

21:18:17:05 21:18:19:10
stage who has personally

21:18:19:11 21:18:20:10
prosecuted everything

21:18:20:11 21:18:21:24
from child sexual assault to
homicide. I'm the only one on this
stage who

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has prosecuted the big banks for
taking advantage of Americas
homeowners.

21:18:23:13 21:18:23:22
I'm the only one on

21:18:23:23 21:18:25:10
this stage who prosecuted for profit
colleges for taking advantage of our

21:18:25:11 21:18:26:20
veterans. And the reality of this is
that we are talking about an

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election in twenty seven days, where
last week, the President of the

21:18:28:06 21:18:29:18
United States took a debate stage in
from of seventy million Americans,

21:18:29:19 21:18:30:15
and refused to condemn white
supremacists.

21:18:30:16 21:18:30:25
Not true. Not true.

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It wasn't like he didn't have a
chance. He didn't do it. And then he

21:19:01:17 21:19:02:24
doubled down. And then he said, when

21:19:03:00 21:19:04:12
pressed he said "Stand back, stand
by", and this is a part of a pattern

21:19:04:13 21:19:05:10
of Donald Trump's. He called Mexicans
rapists

21:19:18:11 21:19:19:11
and criminals.

21:19:20:04 21:19:21:11
He instituted as his first

21:19:22:01 21:19:23:01
act a Muslim ban.

21:19:23:13 21:19:24:13
He, on the issue of

21:19:25:11 21:19:27:07
Charlottesville, where people were

21:19:27:11 21:19:29:05
peacefully protesting

21:19:30:02 21:19:31:07
the need for racial

21:19:32:01 21:19:33:10
justice, where a young woman was

21:19:33:20 21:19:35:07
killed. And on the other side, there

21:19:35:08 21:19:37:10
were neo-Nazis carrying tiki

21:19:38:03 21:19:39:20
torches, shouting racial

21:19:40:16 21:19:43:07
epithets, anti-Semitic

21:19:44:16 21:19:46:09
slurs, And Donald Trump, when asked

21:19:46:18 21:19:47:18
about it, said

21:19:48:16 21:19:50:10
there were fine people on both

21:19:51:02 21:19:52:09
sides. This is who we have as the

21:19:52:10 21:19:53:16
president of the United States.

21:19:53:17 21:19:54:24
And America, you deserve

21:19:55:11 21:19:56:19
better. Joe Biden will be a

21:19:56:22 21:19:58:22
president who brings our country

21:19:58:23 21:19:59:02
together.

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Senator Harris.

21:20:00:03 21:20:01:08
And recognizes the beauty

21:20:02:09 21:20:03:19
in our diversity and the fact

21:20:04:06 21:20:05:23
that we are so much more in common

21:20:06:01 21:20:07:08
than what separates us.

21:20:07:11 21:20:08:18
Vice president. Let me give you a

21:20:09:03 21:20:10:03
minute to respond.

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Thank you, Susan.

21:20:11:04 21:20:12:24
I appreciate that very much.

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You know, I think this is one of the

21:20:15:07 21:20:16:21
things that makes people dislike

21:20:17:07 21:20:19:02
the media so much in this country,

21:20:19:03 21:20:21:04
Susan, that you selectively

21:20:21:12 21:20:22:13
edited, just like Senator Harris

21:20:22:14 21:20:23:13
did, comments

21:20:24:16 21:20:25:21
that President Trump and I and

21:20:25:22 21:20:27:19
others on our side of the aisle make

21:20:28:22 21:20:30:09
it. Senator Harris conveniently

21:20:30:10 21:20:31:10
omitted after that, after the

21:20:31:11 21:20:33:02
president made comments about people

21:20:33:05 21:20:35:03
on either side of the debate over

21:20:35:19 21:20:37:17
monuments, he condemned

21:20:37:23 21:20:38:23
the KKK, neo-Nazis

21:20:39:19 21:20:41:05
and white supremacists and has done

21:20:41:06 21:20:42:05
so

21:20:43:05 21:20:44:20
repeatedly. Your concern that he

21:20:44:24 21:20:46:01
doesn't condemn

21:20:46:22 21:20:48:06
neo-Nazis? President Trump has

21:20:48:07 21:20:49:06
Jewish grandchildren.

21:20:50:01 21:20:51:03
His daughter and son in law are

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Jewish.

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This is a president who who

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respects and cherishes all

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of the American people that you talk

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about having personally prosecuted.

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I'm glad you brought up your record,

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Senator. Thank you. But that's I

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really need to make this point.

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When you were when you were D.A.

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in San Francisco, when you left

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office, African-Americans

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were 19 times more likely

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to be prosecuted for minor drug

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offenses than whites and Hispanics.

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When you were attorney general of

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California, you increased the

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support, the disproportionate

21:21:23:05 21:21:24:23
incarceration of blacks in

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California. You did nothing on

21:21:27:03 21:21:28:08
criminal justice reform.

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In California, you didn't lift a

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finger to pass the first step back

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on Capitol Hill.

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I mean, the reality is your record

21:21:35:00 21:21:36:12
speaks for itself. President Trump
and I have fought for criminal
justice

21:21:36:13 21:21:37:24
reform, we fought for educational
choice and opportunities for African

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Americans. And we'll do it for 4 more
years.

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You know there is no more imoportant
issue than the final isuse that

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we're going to talk about tonight.

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But Susan, he attacked my record and
I would like the opportunity to

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respond.

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Let me give you 30 seconds because
we're running out of time.

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I appreciate that.

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First of all, having

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served as the attorney general

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of the state of California, the

21:22:08:09 21:22:09:16
work that I did is a model

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of what our nation needs to do

21:22:12:13 21:22:14:10
and we will be able to do under

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a Joe Biden presidency.

21:22:16:17 21:22:19:02
Our our agenda

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includes what this administration

21:22:20:25 21:22:22:02
has failed to do.

21:22:22:05 21:22:23:25
It will be about not only

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instituting a ban on chokeholds

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in crowded halls.

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Thank you. Not only thank you,

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Senator. I would like to go through.

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These are points that you made
earlier in the hour. And I want to
talk

21:22:31:15 21:22:32:08
about the election itself before we.

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But I want to talk about the
connection between what Joe and I
will do

21:22:33:21 21:22:35:05
and my record, which includes I was
the first statewide officer to

21:22:35:06 21:22:36:17
institute a requirement that my
agents would wear body cameras and
keep

21:22:36:18 21:22:38:03
them on full time. We were the first
to inititate a requirement that

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there would be a training for law
enforcement on implicit bias. Because

21:22:58:17 21:23:00:03
yes, Joe Biden and I recognize that
implicit bias does exist, Mr. Vice

21:23:00:04 21:23:01:00
President, contrary to what you may

21:23:01:14 21:23:02:22
believe. We did the work of

21:23:03:08 21:23:05:07
instituting reforms that were about

21:23:05:10 21:23:06:11
investing in reentry.

21:23:06:23 21:23:08:20
This is the work that we have done

21:23:08:21 21:23:10:02
and the work we will do going

21:23:10:14 21:23:11:23
forward. And again,

21:23:11:24 21:23:13:09
I will not be lectured by the vice
president on our record of what we

21:23:13:10 21:23:14:21
have done in terms of law enforcement
and keeping our communities safe

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and a commitment to reforming the
criminal justice system of America.

21:23:26:06 21:23:27:08
Thank you, Senator Harris. And I'd
like to pose the

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first I'd like you to respond first

21:23:29:07 21:23:30:22
to the question on our final

21:23:31:08 21:23:32:21
topic, the election itself.

21:23:33:03 21:23:34:12
President Trump has several times

21:23:34:13 21:23:35:21
refused to commit himself to

21:23:36:08 21:23:38:04
a peaceful transfer of power

21:23:38:05 21:23:39:04
after the election.

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If your ticket wins and President
Trump refuses to accept a peaceful

21:23:40:16 21:23:42:01
transfer of power, what steps would
you and Vice President Biden then

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take? What happens next? You have two
minutes.

21:23:43:01 21:23:44:13
So I'll tell you, Joe and I are
particularly proud of the coalition
that

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we've built around our campaign. We
probably have one of the broadest

21:23:46:00 21:23:46:21
coalitions of folks that you've ever
seen

21:23:46:22 21:23:48:09
in a presidential race. Of course, we
have the support of Democrats, but

21:23:48:10 21:23:49:20
also independents and Republicans. In
fact, seven members of President

21:23:49:21 21:23:51:08
George W. Bush's cabinet are
supporting our ticket. We have the
support

21:23:51:09 21:23:52:21
of of Colin Powell, Cindy McCain,
John Kasich, over 500 generals,
retired

21:23:52:22 21:23:54:09
generals and former national security
experts and advisors are supporting

21:23:54:10 21:23:55:21
our campaign. And I believe they are
doing that because they know that

21:23:55:22 21:23:57:08
Joe Biden has a deep, deep seated
commitment to fight for our democracy

21:23:57:09 21:23:58:21
and to fight for the integrity of our
democracy. And to bring integrity

21:23:58:22 21:24:00:07
back to the White House. And so we
believe in the American people. We

21:24:00:08 21:24:01:19
believe in our democracy. And here's
what I'd like to say to everybody.

21:24:01:20 21:24:03:03
Vote, please vote. Vote early, come
up with a plan to vote. Go to

21:24:03:04 21:24:04:15
iwillvote.com. You can also go to
joebiden.com. We have it within our

21:24:04:16 21:24:06:01
power in these next twenty seven days
to make the decision about what

21:24:06:02 21:24:07:12
will be the course of our country for
the next four years. And it is

21:24:07:13 21:24:08:23
within our power. And if we use our
vote and we use our voice, we will

21:24:08:24 21:24:10:10
win and we will not let anyone
subvert our democracy with what
Donald

21:24:10:11 21:24:11:20
Trump has been doing as he did on the
debate stage last week, when,

21:24:11:21 21:24:13:08
again, in front of 70 million people,
he openly attempted to suppress the

21:24:13:09 21:24:14:20
vote. Joe Biden, on the other hand,
on that same debate stage, because

21:24:14:21 21:24:16:08
clearly Donald Trump doesn't think he
can run on a record because it's a

21:24:16:09 21:24:17:20
failed record, Joe Biden on that
stage said, hey, just please vote. So

21:24:17:21 21:24:18:15
I'll repeat what Joe said. Please
vote.

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Thank you, Senator. Vice President

21:25:55:05 21:25:56:11
Pence, President Trump has several

21:25:56:12 21:25:57:23
times refused to commit himself

21:25:58:06 21:26:00:01
to a peaceful transfer of power

21:26:00:02 21:26:01:01
after the election.

21:26:01:15 21:26:03:07
If Vice President Biden is declared

21:26:03:08 21:26:04:09
the winner and President Trump

21:26:04:10 21:26:05:18
refuses to accept a peaceful

21:26:05:20 21:26:07:05
transfer of power, what would

21:26:07:19 21:26:09:07
be your role and responsibility

21:26:09:25 21:26:10:25
as vice president?

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What would you personally do?

21:26:14:00 21:26:15:10
You have two minutes.

21:26:16:05 21:26:17:08
Well, Susan, first and foremost, I

21:26:17:09 21:26:18:13
think we're going to win this
election

21:26:19:12 21:26:21:04
because while Joe Biden and Kamala

21:26:21:10 21:26:23:03
Harris rattle off a long litany the

21:26:24:00 21:26:25:13
establishment in Washington, DC

21:26:25:21 21:26:27:01
and the establishment that Joe Biden

21:26:27:02 21:26:29:02
has been a part of for 47 years,

21:26:29:20 21:26:30:22
President Donald Trump

21:26:31:22 21:26:33:13
has launched a movement of everyday

21:26:33:14 21:26:35:14
Americans from every walk of life.

21:26:36:01 21:26:37:16
And I have every confidence that

21:26:37:24 21:26:38:24
those

21:26:39:00 21:26:40:11
same Americans that delivered that
historic victory in 2016, they see

21:26:40:12 21:26:41:22
this president's record, where we
rebuild our military, we revived our

21:26:41:23 21:26:43:10
economy through tax cuts and rolling
back regulation, fighting for fair

21:26:53:03 21:26:53:23
trade, unleashing American energy. We

21:26:53:24 21:26:55:04
appointed conservatives to our

21:26:55:05 21:26:56:18
federal courts at every level.

21:26:57:03 21:26:58:21
And we stood with the men and women

21:26:59:01 21:27:00:15
of law enforcement every single day.

21:27:00:16 21:27:01:24
And I think that movement of

21:27:02:12 21:27:04:02
Americans has only grown stronger

21:27:04:09 21:27:05:17
in the last four years.

21:27:06:02 21:27:07:07
When you talk about accepting the

21:27:07:08 21:27:08:23
outcome of the election,

21:27:10:05 21:27:11:08
I must tell you,

21:27:12:11 21:27:13:24
Senator, your party has spent the

21:27:14:00 21:27:15:04
last three and a half years trying

21:27:15:05 21:27:16:23
to overturn the results of the last

21:27:17:08 21:27:18:08
election.

21:27:18:10 21:27:19:10
It's amazing.

21:27:19:24 21:27:21:10
When Joe Biden was vice president of

21:27:21:11 21:27:22:12
the United States, the

21:27:23:11 21:27:24:24
FBI actually spied on

21:27:25:07 21:27:27:13
President Trump in my campaign.

21:27:27:17 21:27:28:17
I mean, there were documents

21:27:28:18 21:27:30:04
released this week that the CIA

21:27:30:05 21:27:31:12
actually made a referral

21:27:32:12 21:27:34:12
to the FBI documenting

21:27:34:13 21:27:36:04
that those allegations were coming

21:27:36:07 21:27:38:07
from the Hillary Clinton campaign.

21:27:38:08 21:27:39:18
And, of course, we've all seen the
avalanche, what you put the contry

21:27:39:19 21:27:41:06
through for the better part of three
years until it was found that there

21:27:51:21 21:27:53:05
was no obstruction, no collusion,
case closed. And then, Senator

21:27:53:06 21:27:54:03
Harris, you and your colleagues in

21:27:54:04 21:27:55:16
the in the Congress

21:27:56:01 21:27:57:14
trying to impeach the president of

21:27:57:15 21:27:59:19
the United States over a phone

21:28:00:04 21:28:02:03
call, and now Hillary Clinton has

21:28:02:04 21:28:03:11
actually said to Joe Biden that

21:28:03:18 21:28:04:21
under, in her words, under no

21:28:04:22 21:28:06:16
circumstances should he concede the

21:28:07:03 21:28:08:15
election. So let me just say, I

21:28:08:16 21:28:09:15
think we're going to win this

21:28:09:23 21:28:11:05
election. President Trump and I are

21:28:11:06 21:28:12:20
fighting every day in courthouses to

21:28:12:21 21:28:14:05
prevent Joe Biden and Kamala

21:28:14:17 21:28:16:07
Harris from changing the rules and

21:28:16:08 21:28:17:20
creating this universal mail in

21:28:17:22 21:28:19:10
voting that will create a massive

21:28:19:11 21:28:21:06
opportunity for voter fraud.

21:28:21:08 21:28:22:10
And we have a free and fair

21:28:23:00 21:28:24:00
election. We know we're going to

21:28:24:01 21:28:25:02
have confidence in it.

21:28:25:10 21:28:26:15
And I believe in all my heart, the

21:28:27:00 21:28:27:21
president, Donald Trump, is going to
be

21:28:27:22 21:28:29:08
reelected for four more years.

21:28:29:10 21:28:30:10
You know, I've

21:28:31:10 21:28:32:12
written all the questions that I've

21:28:32:13 21:28:34:01
asked tonight. But for the final

21:28:34:02 21:28:35:15
question of the debate, I'd like

21:28:35:24 21:28:37:22
to read

21:28:37:23 21:28:39:06
a question and someone else wrote.

21:28:39:21 21:28:41:10
The Utah Debate Commission asked

21:28:41:11 21:28:42:22
students in the state

21:28:43:19 21:28:45:07
to write essays about what they

21:28:45:20 21:28:46:20
would like to ask you.

21:28:46:21 21:28:48:07
And I want to close tonight's debate

21:28:48:08 21:28:50:05
with the question posed by Breckland

21:28:50:23 21:28:52:08
Brown. She's an 8th grader at

21:28:52:18 21:28:54:05
Springville Junior High in

21:28:54:17 21:28:55:18
Springville, Utah. And here's what

21:28:55:19 21:28:56:15
she wrote.

21:28:56:16 21:28:58:15
Quote, "When I watch

21:28:58:19 21:29:00:04
the news, all I

21:29:00:05 21:29:01:17
see is arguing between Democrats and
Republicans. When I watch the news,

21:29:01:18 21:29:03:05
all i see is citizen fighting against
citizen. When I watch the news, all

21:29:03:06 21:29:04:18
I see are two candidates from
opposing parties trying to tear each
other

21:29:14:12 21:29:15:07
down.

21:29:15:08 21:29:16:17
If our leaders can't get

21:29:17:06 21:29:18:21
along, how are the citizens supposed

21:29:18:22 21:29:20:18
to get along?" And then she added,

21:29:20:20 21:29:22:01
"Your examples could make

21:29:22:21 21:29:24:20
all the difference to bring us

21:29:25:13 21:29:26:15
together," end quote.

21:29:26:19 21:29:27:23
So to each of you in turn, I'd like

21:29:27:24 21:29:29:09
you to take one minute and respond to
Breckland. Vice President Pence,

21:29:29:10 21:29:29:20
you have one minute.

21:29:29:21 21:29:30:24
Breckland, it's a wondeful question.
They were on polar

21:30:24:11 21:30:26:07
opposites on the Supreme Court of

21:30:26:08 21:30:27:18
the United States, one very

21:30:28:03 21:30:29:16
liberal, one very conservative.

21:30:29:23 21:30:31:03
But what's been learned since her

21:30:31:04 21:30:32:16
passing was the two of them and

21:30:32:23 21:30:35:07
their families were the very closest

21:30:35:08 21:30:36:07
of friends.

21:30:36:19 21:30:38:09
I mean, here in America, we can

21:30:39:00 21:30:40:11
disagree. We can debate vigorously,

21:30:40:12 21:30:41:24
as Senator Harris and I have on

21:30:42:07 21:30:43:17
this stage tonight.

21:30:44:04 21:30:45:17
But when the debate is over, we

21:30:46:02 21:30:47:11
come together as Americans

21:30:48:00 21:30:49:08
and that's what people do in big

21:30:49:17 21:30:51:08
cities and small towns all across

21:30:51:15 21:30:53:03
this country. So I just want to

21:30:53:08 21:30:54:21
encourage you, Breckland, I want to

21:30:54:22 21:30:55:21
tell you that

21:30:56:17 21:30:57:24
we're going to work every day to

21:30:58:00 21:30:58:25
have government as good as our

21:30:58:26 21:30:59:21
people.

21:30:59:22 21:31:01:10
And the American people each and

21:31:01:12 21:31:02:13
every day love a good

21:31:03:12 21:31:05:01
debate. We love a good argument,

21:31:05:10 21:31:07:03
but we always come together and are

21:31:07:04 21:31:08:13
always there for one another.

21:31:08:19 21:31:09:03
Thank you.

21:31:09:04 21:31:09:24
In times of need.

21:31:10:00 21:31:12:01
And we've especially learned that.

21:31:12:08 21:31:12:24
Thank you, Mr. Vice President.

21:31:13:00 21:31:14:02
Through the difficulties of this

21:31:14:09 21:31:15:09
year.

21:31:15:12 21:31:16:23
Senator Harris, what would you say

21:31:16:24 21:31:17:17
to Breckland?

21:31:17:18 21:31:18:18
First of all,

21:31:19:13 21:31:21:01
I love hearing from our young

21:31:21:18 21:31:23:11
leaders. And when I hear her

21:31:23:21 21:31:25:05
words, when I hear your words,

21:31:25:12 21:31:26:25
Breckland, I know our future is

21:31:27:07 21:31:28:07
bright. Because it

21:31:29:02 21:31:30:03
is that perspective

21:31:31:21 21:31:33:08
on who we are and who we should be

21:31:33:09 21:31:34:08
that is a

21:31:35:05 21:31:36:19
sign of leadership and is something

21:31:36:20 21:31:38:10
we should all aspire to be.

21:31:38:14 21:31:39:17
And that, you know, that brings me

21:31:39:18 21:31:41:22
to Joe, Joe Biden.

21:31:42:12 21:31:44:05
One of the reasons that Joe decided

21:31:44:06 21:31:45:24
to run for president

21:31:46:03 21:31:47:16
is after Charlottesville, which

21:31:48:01 21:31:49:13
we talked about earlier.

21:31:50:07 21:31:51:21
It so troubled him and upset him

21:31:52:06 21:31:53:22
like it did all of us, that there

21:31:53:23 21:31:55:10
was that kind of hate

21:31:55:21 21:31:56:21
and division.

21:31:57:22 21:31:59:08
What propelled Joe to run for

21:31:59:09 21:32:00:19
president was to see that over

21:32:01:06 21:32:02:23
the course of the last four years,

21:32:02:24 21:32:04:17
what Breckland described has been

21:32:05:05 21:32:07:06
happening. Joe has a longstanding

21:32:07:07 21:32:08:19
reputation of working across the

21:32:08:20 21:32:10:09
aisle and working in a bipartisan

21:32:10:10 21:32:11:19
way. And that's what he's going to do
as president. Joe Biden has a

21:32:11:20 21:32:13:07
history of lifting people up and
fighting for their dignity. I mean,
you

21:32:13:08 21:32:14:12
have to know Joe's story to know that
Joe has know pain.

21:32:25:08 21:32:26:11
He has known suffering.

21:32:26:14 21:32:27:21
And he has known

21:32:28:10 21:32:29:10
love.

21:32:29:11 21:32:30:13
And so, Breckland, when

21:32:31:07 21:32:32:15
you think about the future,

21:32:33:05 21:32:35:02
I do believe the future is bright.

21:32:36:03 21:32:37:10
And it will be because of your

21:32:37:11 21:32:38:10
leadership.

21:32:38:11 21:32:39:21
And it will be because we fight for
each person's voice through their

21:32:39:22 21:32:41:08
vote. And we get engaged in this
election. Because you have the
ability

21:32:41:09 21:32:42:11
through your work and through,
eventually, your vote.

21:32:42:12 21:32:42:25
Thank you, Senator Harris.

21:32:42:26 21:32:44:11
To determine the future of our
country and what its leadership looks

21:32:44:12 21:32:44:13
like.

21:32:44:14 21:32:46:01
Thank you, Senator Harris. Thank you,
Vice President Pence. Thank you so

21:32:46:02 21:32:47:13
much for being with us tonight. We
want to thank also the University of

21:32:47:14 21:32:48:22
Utah for its hospitality. And, most
of all, our thanks to all the

21:32:48:23 21:32:50:10
Americans who watched this debate
tonight. Again, our best wishes for a

21:32:50:11 21:32:51:22
quick recovery to President Trump,
the first lady, and everyone who is

21:33:20:23 21:33:21:24
battling COVID-19. The second
presidential

21:33:22:00 21:33:24:01
debate is next week on October

21:33:24:17 21:33:26:08
15th, a town hall style debate in

21:33:26:23 21:33:28:23
Miami. We hope you'll join us then.

21:33:29:01 21:33:29:21
Good evening.

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