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Good evening. From the health

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education campus of Case

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Western Reserve University and

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the Cleveland Clinic.

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I'm Chris Wallace of FOX News,

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and I welcome you to the first of

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the 20 20 presidential debates

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between President Donald J.

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Trump and former Vice

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President Joe Biden.

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This debate is sponsored by the

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Commission on Presidential Debates.

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The commission has designed the

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format six roughly

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15 minute segments

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with two minute answers from each

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candidate to the first question,

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then open discussion for the rest

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of each segment.

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Both campaigns have agreed to these

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rules.

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For the record, I decided the topics

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and the questions in each topic.

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I can assure you none of the

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questions has been shared with the

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commission or the two

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candidates.

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This debate has been conducted under

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health and safety protocols designed

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by the Cleveland Clinic, which

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is serving as the health security

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adviser to the commission for all

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four debates.

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As a precaution both campaigns have

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agreed that candidates

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will not shake hands at the

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beginning of tonight's debate.

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The audience here in the hall has

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promised to remain silent.

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No cheers, no boos

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or other interruptions, so we and

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more importantly, you can

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focus on what the candidates have to

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say.

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No noise, except right now

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as we welcome the Republican

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nominee, President Trump,

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and the Democratic nominee, Vice

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President Biden.

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Gentlemen, a lot of people

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have been waiting for this night,

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so let's get going.

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Our first subject is the Supreme

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Court.

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President Trump, you nominated Amy

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Coney Barrett over the weekend to

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succeed the late Ruth

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Bader Ginsburg on the court.

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You say the Constitution is clear

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about your obligation and the

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Senate's to consider

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a nominee to the court.

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Vice President Biden, you say

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that this is an effort by the

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president and Republicans

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to jam through on an appointment and

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what you call an abuse

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of power. My first question to both

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of you tonight.

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Why are you right and make

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the argument you make and your

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opponent wrong?

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And where do you think

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a Justice Barrett would take

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the court?

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President Trump. And that's for a

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segment you got first two minutes.

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Thank you very much, Chris.

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I will tell you very simply, we won

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the election.

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Elections have consequences.

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We have the Senate, we have the

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White House, and we

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have a phenomenal nominee

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respected by all.

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Top, top academic

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good in every way.

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Good in every way.

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In fact, some of her biggest

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endorsers are very liberal people

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from Notre Dame and other places.

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So I think she's going to be

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fantastic. We have plenty of time,

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even if we did it after the election

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itself, I have a lot of time after

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the election, as you know, so I

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think that she will be outstanding,

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she's going to be

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as good as anybody that has

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served on that court.

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We really feel that we have a

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professor at Notre Dame, highly

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respected by all said she's the

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single greatest student he's

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ever had. He's been a professor for

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a long time and a great school.

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And we just we won the

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election and therefore we have the

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right to choose her.

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And very few people knowingly

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would say otherwise. And by the way,

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the Democrats, they wouldn't even

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think about not doing it if they

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had. The only difference is they try

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and do it faster.

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There's no way they would give it

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up.

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They had Merrick Garland.

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But the problem is they didn't have

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the election, so they were stopped.

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And probably that would happen in

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reverse also. Definitely would

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happen reverse.

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So we won the election and we have

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the right to do it, Chris.

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President Trump, thank you.

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Same question to you.

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Vice President Biden, you have two

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minutes.

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Well, first of all,

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thank you for doing this and

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looking forward to this, Mr.

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President.

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I the American people

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have a right to have a say in who

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the Supreme Court nominee is.

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And let's say occurs, when

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they vote for a United States

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senator and when they vote for

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the Presidentof the United States.

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They're not going to get that chance

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now because we're in the middle of

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an election already.

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Election has already started.

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Tens of thousands of people have

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already voted.

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And so the thing that should happen

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is we should wait.

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We should wait and see what the

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outcome of this election is, because

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that's the only way the American

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people get to express their view

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is by who they elect as president

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and who they elect as vice

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president.

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Now, what's at stake here?

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The president's made it clear he

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wants to get rid of the Affordable

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Care Act.

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He's been running on that.

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He ran on that.

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And he and many governing on that.

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He's in the Supreme Court right now

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trying to get rid of

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the Affordable Care Act, which

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will strip 20 million people

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from having insurance,

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health insurance now, if if

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they if it goes into court

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and and the justice

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and I have nothing, I'm not opposed

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to the justices, but she seems like

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a very fine person.

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But she's written before she went in

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the bench, which is her right.

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That she thinks that the Affordable

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Care Act is not constitutional.

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The other thing is on the court and

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it was struck down.

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What happens?

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Women's rights are fundamentally

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changed.

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Once again, a woman could

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be helped pay more money because

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she has a preexisting condition of

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pregnancy.

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We're able to they're able to charge

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women more for the same exact

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procedure man gets.

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And that ended when we,

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in fact, passed the Affordable Care

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Act.

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And there's 100 million people have

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preexisting conditions and they'll

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be taken away as well.

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Those preexisting conditions that

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insurance companies are going to

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love this.

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And so it's just not appropriate

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to do this before this election

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if he wins the election and

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the senator's Democrat, a

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Republican.

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Then he goes forward.

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If not, we should wait until

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February.

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All right. Around 100 million people

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with preexisting conditions.

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As far as a say is concerned, the

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people already had their say.

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They.

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OK. Justice Ginsburg said

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very powerfully, very strongly

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at some point 10

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years ago or so, she said

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a president and the Senate

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is elected for a period of time,

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but a president is elected for four

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years were not elected for three

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years. I'm not elected for three

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years.

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So we have the Senate.

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We have a president elected.

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During that period

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of time, during that period of time.

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We have an opening.

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I'm not elected for three years.

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I'm elected for four years.

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And Joe.

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One hundred million people is

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totally wrong. I don't know where

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you get that number.

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The bigger problem that you have

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is that you're going to extinguish

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one hundred and eighty million

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people with their private health

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care, that they're very simply not

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true.

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Well, you said going to socialist.

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We just. So we're not going to.

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Gentlemen, we're now into open

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doors. Got open discussion.

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Got. Yes, I agree.

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Go ahead, Vice for us.

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Number one, he

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he knows that what I've proposed

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what I've proposed is that

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we expand Obamacare

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and we increase it.

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We do not wipe any.

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And one of the big debates we had

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with 23 of my colleagues

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trying to win the nomination that I

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won. We're saying that Biden wanted

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to allow people have private

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insurance still.

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They can.

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They do. They will under my

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proposal.

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Not what you've said and it's not

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what your party has said.

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Your party wanted to go socialist

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medicine party is socialist right

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now.

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And they're going to dominate.

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Joe, you know that.

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I am the Democratic Party right now.

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The platform of the Democratic Party

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is what I, in fact

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approved of, what I approved

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of. Now, here's the deal.

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The deal is that it's going to wipe

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out preexisting conditions.

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By the way, the 20,

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200 million two hundred thousand

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people that have died on his watch

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there. How many of those that

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survive?

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Well, they're seven million people

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that contracted COVID.

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What does it mean for them going

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forward if we strike down the

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Affordable Care Act?

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Joe, you've had 308 thousand

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military people dying because you

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couldn't provide them proper health

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care in the military.

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So, no, tell me about.

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Happy to talk about.

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And if you were here, you wouldn't

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be 200, it would be two million

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people because you were very late on

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the draw you need.

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And China, which was heavily

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infected.

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You didn't want me to ban.

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All right, gentlemen.

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Right now it is heavily president.

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You would have been much later Joe,

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much later.

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We're talking about two million

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people.

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But as a moderator,

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we are going to talk about COVID in

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the next segment. But go ahead.

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Let me finish.

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The point is that the president

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also is opposed to

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Roe v. Wade.

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That's on the ballot as well.

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And the court in the court.

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And so that's also at stake right

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now. And so the election is

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all you know...

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You don't know what's on the ballot.
Why is it on the ballot?

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It's not on the ballot.

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It's on the ballot in

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the court.

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I don't think so, there's nothing
happening

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there.

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Donald would you just....

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We just don't know her view

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on Roe v.

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Wade.

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Well, all right. Let's.

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All right. Let's talk.

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I would.

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We got a lot to unpack here,

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gentlemen. We got a lot of time.

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So on health care

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and then we'll come back to Roe v.

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Wade. All right, Mr. President, the

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Supreme Court will hear

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a case a week after the

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election in which the Trump

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administration, along with 18

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state attorneys general, are seeking

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to overturn.

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That's right.

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Obamacare to end Obamacare.

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You have spent the last because I

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want to give healthcare.

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If I may ask that question, sir.

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Good health care.

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Over the last four years,

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you have promised to repeal

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and replace Obamacare.

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But you have never in these four

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years come up with a plan,

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a comprehensive plan to place

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Obamacare for.

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I got rid of the individual mandate

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which was a big joke.

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That is not a comprehensive plan.

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That is absolutely a big thing.

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That was the worst part of

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Obamacare, Chris.

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That was the worst part.

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Let me ask my question.

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Well, I'll ask Joe.

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The individual mandate was the most

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unpopular aspect of Obamacare.

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I got rid of.

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And we will protect people with
pre-exisiting conditions.

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Mr President, I'm the moderator in

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this debate.

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And I would like you to let me ask

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my question and then you can answer.

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In the course

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of these four years have never come

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up with a comprehensive plan

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to replace

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Obamacare.

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And just this last Thursday,

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you signed a largely

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symbolic executive order

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to protect people with

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preexisting conditions.

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Five days before this debate.

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So my question, sir, is what is

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the Trump health care plan?

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Well, first of all, I guess I'm

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debating you, not him.

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But that's okay.

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I'm not surprised. Let me just tell

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you something that there's nothing

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symbolic.

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I'm cutting drug prices.

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I'm going with favorite nations,

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which no president has the courage

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to do because you're going against

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big pharma.

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Drug prices will be coming down 80

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or 90 percent.

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You could have done it during your

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47 year period in government,

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but you didn't do it.

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Nobody's done it.

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So we're cutting health care, all of

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the things that we've done.

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Yes, so right here, I give you an

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example, insulin.

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It's going to. It was destroying

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families, destroying people,

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because.

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I'm getting it for so cheap.

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It's like water.

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You want to know the truth.

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So cheap.

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Take a look at all of the drugs that

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what we're doing. Prescription drug

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prices.

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We're going to allow our governors

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now to go to other countries to buy

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drugs because when they pay just a

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tiny fraction.

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This is big stuff.

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This is open discussion.

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Sir,

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you'll be happy.

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I'm about to pick up on one of your

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points to ask the vice president,

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which, as he points out, that you

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would like to add a public option

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to Obamacare.

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Yeah.

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The argument that he makes and other

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Republicans make is that

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that is going to end private

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insurance.

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It is not.

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Well, if I ask

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you the question, it

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will end private insurance and

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create a government takeover of

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health,.

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It does not.

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It's only for those people who are

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so poor they qualify for

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Medicaid.

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They can get that free

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in most states except governors who

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want to deny people or poor

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Medicaid.

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Anyone who qualifies for Medicare

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would be Medicaid

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would automatically be enrolled

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in the public option.

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The vast majority of the American

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people would still not be

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in that option.

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Joe, you agree with Bernie Sanders

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and his far left on

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the manifesto.

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Will it manifest you socialized

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medicine?

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Look. Hey, I'm not going to listen to
him?

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The fact of the matter is, I

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beat Bernie Sanders.

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Not by much.

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I beat him a whole heck of a lot.

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I'm not sure I'm here.

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Stand facing you.

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Pocahontas would have left two days

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early. You lost every primary

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until Super Tuesday.

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You got very lucky.

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Here's the deal, I got very lucky and

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I got very lucky tonight as well.

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And tonight I'm going to make sure

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because here's the deal.

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Here's the deal.

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The fact is that everything he's

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saying so far is simply a lie.

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I'm not here to call out his lies.

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Everybody knows he's a liar.

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Mr President, can you let him finish,
sir?

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No, he don't know how to do that.

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He has, you know.

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You picked the wrong guy,

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the wrong night at the wrong time.

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You agreed with Bernie Sanders

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sentimental ideas.

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There is no manifesto.

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No. Let him speak, Mr President.

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He just lost the left.

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You just lost the left.

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You agreed with Bernie Sanders

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on a plan about

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absolutely, you

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have to socialized medicine.

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Mr. President..

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I tell you what, he is not for

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any help for people

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needing health care because

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he, in fact, already has

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cost 10 million people their health

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care that they had from their

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employers because of his recession,

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number one. Number two, there are 20

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million people getting health care

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through Obamacare now that he wants

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to take it away.

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He won't ever look you in the eye,

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and say that's what he wants to do,

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take it away.

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I want to give better health care at

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a much lower price because

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Obamacare doesn't work I've already
fixed it to and extent.

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He has never offered a plan.He has

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never done a single thing.

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Gentlemen, you realize you're both

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speaking at the same time.

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Let the presidents go ahead, sir.

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Obamacare is no good.

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We made it better and I had a choice

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to make very early on.

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We took away the individual mandate.

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We guarantee preexisting conditions,

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but took away the individual

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mandate.

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Listen, this is the way it is, and

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that destroyed that they

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shouldn't even call it Obamacare.

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Then I had a choice to make.

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Do I let my people run it really

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well?

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Or badly. If I run it badly, they'll

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probably blame him.

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But they'll blame me. But more

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importantly, it would help people.

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OK. I said you got to run it so

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well. That's when I just had a

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meeting with them. They said the

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problem is, no matter how well you

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run Obamacare, it's

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a disaster.

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It's too expensive and

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too high that it doesn't work so we

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do want

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to get rid of it?

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I understand that stuff, but I have

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to give you roughly equal time.

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Please let the vice president

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talk.

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He has no plan for health

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care.

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He sends out wishful

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thinking. He has executive orders,

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that have no power.

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He hasn't lowered drug costs for

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anybody. He's been promising a

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health care plan since he got

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elected. He has none.

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Like almost everything else he talks

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about. He does not

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have a plan.

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He doesn't have a plan.

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And the fact is, this man doesn't

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know what he's talking about.

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I have one final question for you

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here, Mr. Vice President.

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If Senate Republicans...we

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were talking recently about the

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Supreme Court here, if Senate

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Republicans go ahead

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and confirm Justice Barrett,

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there has been talk about ending the

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filibuster or even packing

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the court, adding to the nine

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justices there.

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You'll call this a distraction by

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the president, but in fact, it

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wasn't brought up by the president.

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It was brought up by some of your

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Democratic colleagues in

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Congress. So my question to you, as

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you have refused in the past to talk

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about it, are you willing to tell

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the American people tonight whether

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or not you will support either

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ending the filibuster or

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packing the court?

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Whateve position I take in that,

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that will become the issue.

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The issue is the American people

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should speak.

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You should go out and vote.

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You're in voting now.

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Vote and let your senators know how

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strongly you feel.

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Vote now going to pack to make sure

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you, in fact, let people know,

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your senators.

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Why won't he answer the question?

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I'm not going to answer the question

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because, the question

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the question is yes.

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Is the right. I still left.

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Will you shut up man?

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All right, gentlemen.

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We have ended this segment.

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We're gonna move on to the second

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segment.

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It was really a productive segment

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wasn't it.

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Keep yapping.

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And the people understand Joe.

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for forty seven years, you've done

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nothing then.

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All right.

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The second subject is COVID

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19, which is an awfully serious

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subject. So.

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Let's try to be serious about it.

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We have had more than seven million

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cases of coronavirus

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in the United States and more than

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two hundred thousand people

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have died. Even after

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we produce a vaccine,

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experts say that it could be months

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or even years before

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we come back to anything

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approaching normal.

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My question for both of you is,

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based on what you have said

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and done so far and what

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you have said you would do starting

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in 2021.

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Why should the American people trust

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you more than your opponent

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to deal with this public

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health crisis going forward in this

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case?

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The question goes to you first, sir.

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Two minutes uninterrupted.

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Good luck.

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Two hundred thousand dead, as you

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said, over seven million infected

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the United States.

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We, in fact, have

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five percent or four percent of the

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world's population, 20 percent

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of the deaths, 40000

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people a day are contracting

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COVID.

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In addition to that, about between

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750 and a thousand people there

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died when he was presented with

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that number, he said, it is what

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it is.

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Well, it is what it is because you

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are who you are.

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That's why it is.

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The president has no

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plan.

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He hasn't laid out anything.

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He knew all the way back in February

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how serious this crisis was.

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He knew it was a deadly disease.

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What did he do?

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He's on tape, is acknowledging he

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knew it. He said he didn't tell us

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or give people a warning of it

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because he didn't want to panic the

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American people.

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You don't panic.

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He panicked.

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In addition to that, what did he do?

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He went in and he...

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We were insisting that the Chinese,

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the people we had on the ground in

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China should be able to go to Wuhan

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and determine for themselves how

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dangerous this was.

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He did not even ask Xi to

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do that. He told us what a great

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job Xi was doing.

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He said we owe him a debt of

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gratitude for being so

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transparent with us.

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And what did he do then?

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He then did nothing.

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He waited and waited and waited.

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He still doesn't have a plan.

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I laid out back in March

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exactly what we should be doing.

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And I laid out again in July

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what we should be doing.

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We should be providing all the

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protective gear possible, we should

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be providing the money the House has

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passed in order to be able to

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go out and get people

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the help they need to keep their

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businesses open, open schools that

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cost a lot of money.

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You should get out of your bunker

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and get out of the sand trap

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in your golf course and go in the

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Oval Office and bring together the

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Democrats, Republicans and fund

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what needs to be done now to save

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lives.

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You have two minutes sir.

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So

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if we would have listened to you,

00:24:05:06 00:24:06:10
the country would have been left

00:24:06:11 00:24:07:08
wide open.

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Millions of people would have died,

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not 200000.

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And one person is too much.

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It's China's fault.

00:24:12:16 00:24:13:20
It should have never happened.

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They stopped it from going in, but

00:24:15:20 00:24:16:19
it was China's fault.

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And by the way, when you talk about

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numbers, you don't know how many

00:24:19:04 00:24:20:03
people died in China.

00:24:20:14 00:24:21:15
You don't know how many people died

00:24:21:16 00:24:22:23
in Russia. You don't know how many

00:24:22:24 00:24:23:25
people died in India.

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They don't exactly give you a

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straight count, just so you

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understand.

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But if you look at what we've done,

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I closed it and you said he's

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xenophobic, he's a racist and he's

00:24:32:10 00:24:34:02
xenophobic because you don't think

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you should have closed our country

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and, wait a minute.

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You didn't think we should have

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closed our country because you

00:24:39:07 00:24:40:09
thought it was too.

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It was terrible.

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You wouldn't have closed it for

00:24:42:17 00:24:43:16
another two months.

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By my doing it early.

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In fact, Dr. Fauci said President

00:24:47:10 00:24:49:06
Trump saved thousands of

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lives. Many of you, a Democrat

00:24:50:24 00:24:52:20
governors, said President

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Trump did a phenomenal job.

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We worked with the governor.

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Oh, really? Go take a look.

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The governors said I did a

00:24:58:20 00:24:59:17
phenomenal job.

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Most of them said that, in fact,

00:25:01:24 00:25:04:11
people that would not be necessarily

00:25:04:12 00:25:05:25
on my side said that

00:25:06:10 00:25:07:24
President Trump did a phenomenal

00:25:08:05 00:25:09:11
job. We did.

00:25:09:16 00:25:10:14
We got the gowns.

00:25:10:15 00:25:11:17
We got the masks.

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We made the ventilators.

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You wouldn't have made ventilators.

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And now we're weeks away from a

00:25:15:21 00:25:16:20
vaccine.

00:25:16:21 00:25:18:16
We're doing therapeutics already.

00:25:18:19 00:25:20:13
Fewer people are dying when they get

00:25:20:17 00:25:22:20
sick. Far fewer people are dying.

00:25:23:02 00:25:24:04
We've done a great job.

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The only thing I haven't done a good

00:25:25:20 00:25:27:03
job. And that's because of the fake

00:25:27:04 00:25:29:01
news. No matter what you say to him,

00:25:29:02 00:25:30:03
they give you a bad press on.

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It's just fake news.

00:25:31:08 00:25:32:14
They give you good press.

00:25:32:17 00:25:34:09
They give me bad press because

00:25:34:10 00:25:35:19
that's the way it is, unfortunately.

00:25:35:21 00:25:36:21
But let me just tell you something.

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I don't care. I've gotten used to

00:25:38:03 00:25:39:10
it. But I'll tell you, Joe, you

00:25:39:11 00:25:40:20
could never have done the job that

00:25:40:21 00:25:42:06
we did. You don't have it in your

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blood. You could have never done

00:25:43:10 00:25:44:09
that Joe.

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I know how to do the job.

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I know how to get the job done.

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You didn't do very well in swine

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flu, H1N1.

00:25:51:01 00:25:52:02
You were a disaster.

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Your own Chief of Staff said you were
a

00:25:53:23 00:25:54:18
disaster.

00:25:54:19 00:25:56:00
Fourteen thousand people died.

00:25:56:01 00:25:57:01
Not 200000. There was no economic
recession.

00:26:02:15 00:26:03:12
Sir, you've made a point, let him
answer.

00:26:03:13 00:26:04:00
And there was no one.

00:26:04:02 00:26:05:09
There's no we didn't shut down the

00:26:05:10 00:26:06:09
economy.

00:26:06:16 00:26:08:01
This is his economy has been.

00:26:08:04 00:26:09:04
He's shut down.

00:26:09:08 00:26:10:12
The reason it's shut down is

00:26:10:13 00:26:12:12
because, look, you folks

00:26:12:13 00:26:13:15
at home, how many you get up this

00:26:13:16 00:26:15:19
morning and had an empty chair

00:26:15:20 00:26:17:09
at the kitchen table because someone

00:26:17:10 00:26:18:09
died of COVID.

00:26:18:16 00:26:20:08
How many of you are in a situation

00:26:20:11 00:26:22:08
where you lost her mom or dad

00:26:22:09 00:26:23:09
and you couldn't even speak to them,

00:26:23:10 00:26:25:02
you had a nurse holding a phone up

00:26:25:09 00:26:26:16
so you could, in fact, say goodbye.

00:26:26:17 00:26:27:25
You would have lost far more people.
You'd have been months late.

00:26:33:01 00:26:34:24
His own CDC director says

00:26:35:05 00:26:36:21
we could lose as many as another

00:26:36:25 00:26:38:20
200000 people between now

00:26:38:21 00:26:39:20
and the end of the year.

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And he held it. He said if we just

00:26:41:12 00:26:43:07
wear a mask, we can save half

00:26:43:08 00:26:44:01
those numbers.

00:26:44:02 00:26:45:06
Just just a mask.

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And by the way, in terms of

00:26:47:11 00:26:49:08
the whole notion of a vaccine,

00:26:49:19 00:26:51:09
we're for a vaccine, but we don't

00:26:51:10 00:26:52:04
trust him at all.

00:26:52:05 00:26:53:12
Or do you? I know you don't.

00:26:53:18 00:26:55:05
Well, we trust as a scientist.

00:26:55:06 00:26:56:24
You don't trust Johnson & Johnson,

00:26:57:01 00:26:58:01
Pfizer.

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Gentlemen, let me move on to

00:27:01:23 00:27:03:04
questions about the future, because

00:27:03:05 00:27:04:05
you both have touched on.

00:27:04:07 00:27:05:24
One of the, two of the questions I'm

00:27:05:25 00:27:07:04
going to ask to focusing

00:27:08:01 00:27:09:01
on the future first, President

00:27:09:02 00:27:11:12
Trump, you have repeatedly

00:27:11:21 00:27:13:14
either contradicted or been at odds

00:27:13:19 00:27:15:02
with some of your government's own

00:27:15:03 00:27:15:22
top scientists.

00:27:15:23 00:27:17:20
The week before last, the head

00:27:17:21 00:27:19:12
of the Centers for Disease Control,

00:27:19:13 00:27:21:01
Dr. Redfield, said it would be

00:27:21:07 00:27:23:18
summer before the vaccine

00:27:23:25 00:27:26:01
would become generally available

00:27:26:03 00:27:27:10
to the public.

00:27:27:11 00:27:29:06
You said that he was confused

00:27:29:18 00:27:31:01
and mistaken. Those were your two

00:27:31:02 00:27:32:00
words.

00:27:32:01 00:27:33:01
But, Dr. Slaoui, the

00:27:33:24 00:27:35:25
head of your Operation Warp Speed

00:27:36:07 00:27:37:23
has said exactly the same thing.

00:27:38:01 00:27:38:22
Are they both wrong?

00:27:38:23 00:27:40:10
Well, I've spoken to the companies

00:27:40:11 00:27:41:16
and we can have it a lot sooner.

00:27:41:17 00:27:43:04
It's a very political thing because

00:27:43:05 00:27:44:20
people like this would rather make

00:27:44:25 00:27:46:11
it political than save lives.

00:27:46:23 00:27:48:11
It is a very political thing.

00:27:48:18 00:27:50:07
I've spoken to Pfizer has spoken

00:27:50:24 00:27:52:13
to all of the people that you have

00:27:52:14 00:27:54:05
to speak to. We have great Moderna,

00:27:54:13 00:27:56:06
Johnson and Johnson and others.

00:27:56:16 00:27:58:04
They can go faster than that by a

00:27:58:05 00:28:00:05
lot. It's become very political,

00:28:00:08 00:28:01:24
because the left or I don't know..

00:28:02:00 00:28:03:10
So you're suggesting that your head
of your Operation Warp Speed, Dr

00:28:03:11 00:28:03:15
Slaoui...

00:28:05:15 00:28:06:15
I disagree with him.

00:28:06:21 00:28:08:02
No, I disagree with both of them.

00:28:08:10 00:28:09:08
And he didn't say that.

00:28:09:09 00:28:10:14
He said it could be there, but it

00:28:10:15 00:28:11:13
could also be much.

00:28:11:14 00:28:12:24
And I had him in my office studio.

00:28:13:07 00:28:14:16
He talked about the summer, sir,

00:28:14:17 00:28:16:07
before it's generally available to

00:28:16:08 00:28:16:15
us.

00:28:16:16 00:28:18:03
He said it's a possibility that

00:28:18:04 00:28:19:25
we'll have the answer

00:28:20:04 00:28:21:20
before November 1st.

00:28:23:05 00:28:24:05
But will it be generally available?

00:28:24:11 00:28:25:13
Well, we're going to deliver it

00:28:25:14 00:28:27:02
right away. We have the military all

00:28:27:03 00:28:28:15
set up. Logistically, they're all

00:28:28:16 00:28:29:10
set up.

00:28:29:11 00:28:30:24
We have our military that delivers

00:28:31:00 00:28:32:18
soldiers and they can do two hundred

00:28:32:19 00:28:33:22
thousand a day.

00:28:34:06 00:28:35:11
This is the same man who

00:28:36:02 00:28:37:02
said that by

00:28:38:07 00:28:40:00
Easter, this would be gone away

00:28:40:11 00:28:41:10
by the warm weather.

00:28:41:11 00:28:42:23
It'd be gone. Miraculously, it's

00:28:42:24 00:28:43:24
like a miracle.

00:28:44:02 00:28:45:08
And by the way, maybe could inject

00:28:45:09 00:28:46:13
some bleach in your arm and that

00:28:46:14 00:28:47:14
would take care of it.

00:28:47:17 00:28:48:17
That was said sarcastically and you
know that.

00:28:51:17 00:28:52:17
So here's the deal.

00:28:52:25 00:28:55:07
This man is talking about a vaccine.

00:28:55:15 00:28:57:11
Every serious, every

00:28:57:12 00:28:59:05
serious company is talking about

00:28:59:11 00:29:00:24
maybe having the vaccine

00:29:01:07 00:29:02:23
done by the end of the year.

00:29:02:24 00:29:04:17
But the distribution of that vaccine

00:29:04:23 00:29:06:05
will not occur until sometime

00:29:06:06 00:29:07:18
beginning or the middle of next year

00:29:07:19 00:29:08:18
to get it out.

00:29:08:19 00:29:10:19
If we get the vaccine and pray

00:29:10:20 00:29:12:13
God we will, pray God we will.

00:29:12:15 00:29:13:22
We, Mr. Vice President, want to pick

00:29:13:23 00:29:15:04
up on that. I want to pick

00:29:15:18 00:29:16:19
up on this question, though.

00:29:16:20 00:29:18:18
You say the public can trust

00:29:18:19 00:29:20:08
the scientists, but they can't trust

00:29:20:09 00:29:21:12
President Trump, in fact.

00:29:21:13 00:29:22:17
You said that again tonight.

00:29:22:23 00:29:24:13
Your running mate, Senator Harris,

00:29:24:14 00:29:26:01
goes further, saying the public

00:29:26:13 00:29:27:24
health experts, quote, will be

00:29:28:11 00:29:30:15
muzzled, will be suppressed.

00:29:30:24 00:29:32:19
Given the fact that polls already

00:29:32:20 00:29:33:19
show that people

00:29:34:16 00:29:36:09
are concerned about the vaccine and

00:29:36:10 00:29:37:13
are reluctant to take it.

00:29:38:04 00:29:39:15
Are you and your running mate,

00:29:39:17 00:29:41:11
Senator Harris, contributing to that

00:29:41:12 00:29:42:01
fear?

00:29:42:02 00:29:43:10
No more than the question you just

00:29:43:11 00:29:45:00
asked him. You pointed out

00:29:45:11 00:29:47:08
he puts pressure and disagrees

00:29:47:09 00:29:49:01
with his own scientists.

00:29:49:06 00:29:50:06
But you're saying

00:29:52:03 00:29:53:13
and senator Harris are saying that
you can't trust the scientists?

00:29:53:14 00:29:54:04
Well, no. No, you can trust the

00:29:54:05 00:29:54:22
scientists.

00:29:54:24 00:29:55:24
She didn't say that.

00:29:56:07 00:29:57:15
She said that public health experts,

00:29:58:03 00:29:59:01
quote, will be muzzled, will be

00:29:59:02 00:30:00:01
suppressed.

00:30:00:16 00:30:02:08
Well, that's what he's going to try

00:30:02:10 00:30:03:21
to do. But there's millions of

00:30:03:22 00:30:05:04
scientists and there's thousands of

00:30:05:05 00:30:06:17
scientists out there like here at

00:30:06:18 00:30:08:13
this great hospital that don't

00:30:08:21 00:30:09:21
work for him.

00:30:10:00 00:30:11:17
Their job doesn't depend on him.

00:30:12:00 00:30:13:22
That's not there are the people

00:30:14:03 00:30:14:18
there.

00:30:14:19 00:30:16:04
According to the scientists that are

00:30:16:05 00:30:17:15
in charge, they will have the

00:30:17:16 00:30:18:16
vaccine very soon.

00:30:18:24 00:30:21:03
Do you believe for a moment

00:30:21:24 00:30:23:21
what he's telling you in light of

00:30:23:24 00:30:26:08
all the lies he's told you about,

00:30:26:14 00:30:28:07
the whole issue relating to COVID.

00:30:29:02 00:30:31:03
He's still hasn't even acknowledged

00:30:31:11 00:30:33:11
that he knew this was happening,

00:30:33:12 00:30:35:07
knew how dangerous are going to be

00:30:35:13 00:30:36:16
back in February.

00:30:36:21 00:30:38:22
And he didn't even tell you

00:30:39:04 00:30:40:22
he's on record as saying that

00:30:41:05 00:30:42:24
he panicked or he just looked at the

00:30:43:00 00:30:44:12
stock market. One of the two,

00:30:44:14 00:30:45:14
because guess what?

00:30:45:18 00:30:47:14
A lot of people died and

00:30:47:15 00:30:48:22
a lot more are going to die unless

00:30:48:23 00:30:50:17
he gets a lot smarter a lot sooner.

00:30:52:13 00:30:53:13
Did you use the word smart?

00:30:55:02 00:30:56:16
So you said you went to Delaware

00:30:56:19 00:30:58:06
State, but you forgot the name of

00:30:58:07 00:30:59:06
your college.

00:30:59:10 00:31:00:22
You didn't go to Delaware State, you

00:31:00:23 00:31:01:22
graduated.

00:31:02:10 00:31:03:21
Either the lowest or almost the

00:31:03:22 00:31:04:19
lowest in your class.

00:31:04:20 00:31:06:06
Don't ever use the word smart with

00:31:06:07 00:31:07:20
me. Don't ever use that word.

00:31:08:14 00:31:09:14
Because you know what?

00:31:09:19 00:31:10:25
There's nothing smart about you,

00:31:10:26 00:31:12:18
Joe. 47 years you've done nothing.

00:31:14:10 00:31:15:14
Let me just tell you something, Joe.

00:31:15:21 00:31:17:04
No. If you would have had

00:31:17:23 00:31:19:19
the charge of what I was

00:31:19:20 00:31:21:04
put through, I had to close the

00:31:21:05 00:31:22:19
greatest economy in the history of

00:31:22:20 00:31:24:07
our country. And by the way, now

00:31:24:08 00:31:25:07
it's being built again.

00:31:25:08 00:31:26:21
So we're going after the economy in

00:31:26:22 00:31:27:19
the next segment, sir.

00:31:27:20 00:31:29:14
It's going up fast.

00:31:29:16 00:31:30:03
OK.

00:31:30:04 00:31:32:08
And when it comes to how the virus

00:31:32:09 00:31:34:05
has been handled so far,

00:31:34:16 00:31:36:02
the two of you have taken very

00:31:36:03 00:31:36:23
different approaches.

00:31:36:24 00:31:38:11
And this is going to affect how

00:31:38:22 00:31:41:00
the virus is handled going forward

00:31:41:01 00:31:42:09
by whichever of you ends up

00:31:42:22 00:31:44:01
becoming the next president.

00:31:44:08 00:31:46:01
I want to quickly go through several

00:31:46:02 00:31:47:10
of those reopenings.

00:31:47:21 00:31:49:08
Vice President Biden, you have been

00:31:49:09 00:31:50:25
much more reluctant than President

00:31:51:03 00:31:53:03
Trump about reopening

00:31:53:07 00:31:54:19
the economy and schools.

00:31:54:20 00:31:55:13
Why, sir?

00:31:55:14 00:31:56:21
Because he doesn't have a plan.

00:31:56:23 00:31:58:15
If I were running, I knew what the

00:31:58:16 00:31:59:12
plan is.

00:31:59:13 00:32:00:24
You've got to provide these

00:32:01:02 00:32:02:21
businesses the ability to have the

00:32:02:22 00:32:04:12
money to be able to reopen with the

00:32:04:13 00:32:06:14
PPE as well as with

00:32:06:18 00:32:07:23
sanitation they need.

00:32:08:04 00:32:09:04
You have to provide it.

00:32:11:13 00:32:12:16
Will, he just just shush for a

00:32:12:17 00:32:13:16
minute.

00:32:16:11 00:32:17:12
By the way, Nancy Pelosi and

00:32:17:13 00:32:18:25
Schumer. They have a plan.

00:32:19:14 00:32:20:25
He won't even meet with them.

00:32:21:06 00:32:22:16
The Republicans won't meet on the

00:32:22:17 00:32:24:02
Senate. But he had he sits he

00:32:24:16 00:32:25:25
sits on his golf course.

00:32:30:05 00:32:31:04
What about this question of

00:32:31:05 00:32:32:05
reopenings?

00:32:32:12 00:32:33:24
Well he wants to shut down this

00:32:34:10 00:32:35:10
country.

00:32:35:13 00:32:36:24
And I want to keep it open.

00:32:40:06 00:32:41:07
Let me shut you down for a second

00:32:41:08 00:32:42:21
Joe, just for one second.

00:32:43:23 00:32:45:12
We want to he wants to shut down

00:32:45:24 00:32:47:10
the country. We just went through

00:32:47:11 00:32:48:15
it. We had to because we didn't know

00:32:48:16 00:32:49:16
anything about the disease.

00:32:49:17 00:32:51:21
Now we found that elderly people

00:32:51:22 00:32:53:10
with heart problems and diabetes

00:32:54:10 00:32:56:07
and different problems are very,

00:32:56:08 00:32:57:20
very vulnerable. We learned a lot.

00:32:57:21 00:32:59:08
Young children aren't.

00:33:00:03 00:33:01:11
Even younger people aren't.

00:33:01:13 00:33:02:13
We've learned a lot.

00:33:02:16 00:33:03:23
But he wants to shut it down.

00:33:04:08 00:33:06:00
More people will be hurt

00:33:06:07 00:33:07:03
by continuing.

00:33:07:04 00:33:08:16
If you look at Pennsylvania, if you

00:33:08:17 00:33:10:07
look at certain states that have

00:33:10:08 00:33:11:18
been shut down, they have Democrat

00:33:11:19 00:33:13:14
governors. All one of the reasons

00:33:13:15 00:33:14:16
is shut down is because they want to

00:33:14:17 00:33:16:04
keep it shut down until after the

00:33:16:05 00:33:17:19
election on November 3rd because

00:33:17:20 00:33:19:06
it's a political thing. Those states
are not doing well, which are shut

00:33:19:07 00:33:19:09
down.

00:33:23:07 00:33:24:07
I want to move onto another subject.

00:33:29:01 00:33:30:19
President Trump, you have

00:33:31:02 00:33:32:12
begun to increasingly question the
effectiveness

00:33:32:13 00:33:34:18
of masks as a disease preventer.

00:33:35:03 00:33:36:21
And in fact, recently you have cited

00:33:37:03 00:33:38:24
the issue of of waiters

00:33:39:00 00:33:40:07
touching their mouths and touching

00:33:40:08 00:33:41:03
plates.

00:33:41:04 00:33:41:23
Are you questioning the

00:33:41:24 00:33:42:11
effectiveness of masks?

00:33:42:12 00:33:43:22
No, I think masks are OK, you

00:33:44:07 00:33:45:11
have to understand, if you look I

00:33:45:12 00:33:46:17
mean, I have a mask right here.

00:33:46:18 00:33:48:15
I put a mask on if, you know,

00:33:48:16 00:33:50:13
when I think I need it tonight as

00:33:50:14 00:33:52:08
an example, everybody's had a test

00:33:52:09 00:33:53:23
and you've had social distancing

00:33:54:11 00:33:55:13
and all of the things that you have

00:33:55:14 00:33:57:17
to. But I wear masks when needed.

00:33:57:21 00:33:59:02
When needed. I wear a mask.

00:33:59:25 00:34:01:14
I don't have I don't wear masks like

00:34:01:15 00:34:02:17
him. Every time you see him, he's

00:34:02:18 00:34:04:00
got a mask. He could be speaking

00:34:04:15 00:34:05:18
200 feet away from it.

00:34:05:19 00:34:07:05
He shows up with the biggest mask

00:34:07:06 00:34:08:05
I've ever seen.

00:34:09:13 00:34:10:21
Vice President Biden.

00:34:10:22 00:34:11:22
Go ahead, sir.

00:34:11:23 00:34:14:05
Look, the way to open businesses

00:34:14:11 00:34:15:17
is giving them the wherewithal to be

00:34:15:18 00:34:16:17
able open.

00:34:16:20 00:34:17:20
We provided money the economy...

00:34:18:16 00:34:19:24
I was asking about masks.

00:34:20:04 00:34:21:13
Well, mask, mask make a big

00:34:21:19 00:34:23:12
difference. His own head of the CDC

00:34:23:22 00:34:25:13
said if we just wore masks between

00:34:25:14 00:34:27:12
now, if everybody wore masks

00:34:27:13 00:34:29:00
and social distanced between now and

00:34:29:01 00:34:30:20
January, we'd probably save up to a

00:34:30:21 00:34:32:16
hundred thousand lives.

00:34:33:00 00:34:33:18
It matters.

00:34:33:19 00:34:35:00
And they've all since said opposite.

00:34:36:12 00:34:38:10
No serious person said the opposite.

00:34:50:01 00:34:51:11
I want to ask you about one last

00:34:51:17 00:34:53:05
subject, because your different

00:34:53:16 00:34:55:09
approach has even affected the way

00:34:55:10 00:34:56:22
that you have campaigned.

00:34:57:03 00:34:58:09
President Trump, you're holding

00:34:58:10 00:34:59:15
large rallies with crowds

00:35:00:08 00:35:01:22
packed together. Thousands of people

00:35:01:23 00:35:02:23
outside.

00:35:03:02 00:35:04:01
Outside. Yes, sir.

00:35:04:02 00:35:05:22
A great Vice President

00:35:05:23 00:35:08:04
Biden. You are holding much smaller

00:35:08:24 00:35:09:17
events.

00:35:09:18 00:35:10:17
Because nobody will show up.

00:35:10:18 00:35:11:17
Nobody

00:35:13:08 00:35:14:08
shows up to his.

00:35:14:09 00:35:16:07
All right. In any case, why are you

00:35:16:08 00:35:17:08
holding the big rallies?

00:35:17:09 00:35:18:10
Why you not?

00:35:18:17 00:35:19:17
You go first, sir.

00:35:19:23 00:35:21:12
Because people want to hear what

00:35:21:21 00:35:22:07
I have to say.

00:35:22:08 00:35:23:05
Are you not worried about spreading
disease?

00:35:23:06 00:35:24:12
I mean, you know, is the

00:35:24:13 00:35:26:17
president and I have 25, 35000

00:35:26:22 00:35:28:19
people show up at airports.

00:35:29:04 00:35:29:24
We use airports.

00:35:29:25 00:35:30:20
You're not worried about.

00:35:30:21 00:35:31:22
We have a lot of people.

00:35:32:08 00:35:34:02
Well, so far, we have had no problem

00:35:34:14 00:35:35:25
whatsoever. It's outside.

00:35:35:26 00:35:37:05
That's a big difference, according

00:35:37:06 00:35:38:22
to the experts.

00:35:39:08 00:35:40:05
We do them outside.

00:35:40:06 00:35:42:09
We have tremendous crowds,

00:35:42:12 00:35:43:07
as you see.

00:35:43:08 00:35:44:07
I mean, every.

00:35:44:08 00:35:46:14
And literally on 24 hours notice.

00:35:47:01 00:35:48:14
And Joe does the circles and has

00:35:48:15 00:35:49:16
three people someplace.

00:35:49:18 00:35:50:00
Oh, God.

00:35:50:01 00:35:51:24
By the way, just to decide to

00:35:52:01 00:35:53:09
run the last four big rallies he

00:35:53:10 00:35:54:07
has.

00:35:54:08 00:35:55:25
And a reporter came up to him to ask

00:35:55:26 00:35:57:06
him a question. He said, no, no, no.

00:35:57:15 00:35:58:15
Stand back.

00:35:58:17 00:35:59:17
Put on your mask.

00:35:59:18 00:36:00:17
Put on a mask.

00:36:00:19 00:36:01:19
Have you been tested?

00:36:02:12 00:36:04:07
I'm way, way far away from those

00:36:04:08 00:36:05:07
other people.

00:36:05:14 00:36:06:10
That's what he said.

00:36:06:11 00:36:07:23
I can't I'm going to be OK.

00:36:08:08 00:36:09:16
He now worried about you.

00:36:09:17 00:36:10:19
He's not worried about the people

00:36:10:20 00:36:11:19
out there breathing one.

00:36:11:20 00:36:13:05
We've had no negativity now,

00:36:13:14 00:36:14:15
no negative effect.

00:36:14:16 00:36:15:24
We've had no negative effect.

00:36:16:00 00:36:17:07
And we've had 35, 40 thousand people

00:36:17:08 00:36:18:07
at these rallies.

00:36:19:03 00:36:19:24
Yeah, let's quickly finish up

00:36:20:00 00:36:20:24
because I want to move on to our

00:36:21:00 00:36:21:06
next subject.

00:36:21:07 00:36:21:23
Yes, I would.

00:36:21:24 00:36:23:15
He's been totally irresponsible, the

00:36:23:16 00:36:24:24
way in which he has handled

00:36:25:20 00:36:27:17
the social distancing and people

00:36:27:18 00:36:29:09
wearing masks basically encouraged

00:36:29:13 00:36:30:13
him not to.

00:36:30:23 00:36:31:22
And he's a fool on this.

00:36:31:23 00:36:33:12
If you could get the crowds, you

00:36:33:21 00:36:34:21
would have done the same thing.

00:36:34:22 00:36:35:22
But you can't. Nobody cares.

00:36:37:12 00:36:38:16
Gentlemen, can we move on to the

00:36:38:17 00:36:39:14
economy?

00:36:39:15 00:36:41:14
The economy is,

00:36:41:15 00:36:42:25
I think it's fair to say, recovering

00:36:43:00 00:36:44:11
faster than expected from the

00:36:44:22 00:36:45:22
shutdown in the

00:36:46:20 00:36:48:07
second quarter. The unemployment

00:36:48:08 00:36:49:19
rate fell to eight point four

00:36:49:20 00:36:50:22
percent last month.

00:36:51:08 00:36:53:11
The Federal Reserve says the hit

00:36:53:18 00:36:55:07
to growth, which is going to be

00:36:55:08 00:36:57:04
there, is not going to be nearly as

00:36:57:05 00:36:59:03
big as they had expected.

00:36:59:17 00:37:01:01
President Trump, you say we are in a

00:37:01:02 00:37:03:04
v shaped recovery.

00:37:04:05 00:37:05:18
Vice President Biden, you say it's

00:37:05:19 00:37:07:01
more of a K shape.

00:37:07:14 00:37:09:12
What difference does that

00:37:09:15 00:37:11:16
mean to the American

00:37:11:17 00:37:12:23
people in terms of the economy,

00:37:12:24 00:37:14:15
President Trump, in this segment,

00:37:14:16 00:37:15:15
you'll go first.

00:37:15:16 00:37:17:10
So we built the greatest economy in

00:37:17:11 00:37:19:01
history. We closed it down because

00:37:19:03 00:37:20:03
of the China plague.

00:37:20:04 00:37:21:20
When the plague came in, we closed

00:37:21:21 00:37:23:07
it down, which was very hard

00:37:23:14 00:37:24:18
psychologically to do.

00:37:24:19 00:37:25:23
He didn't think we should close it

00:37:25:24 00:37:27:19
down and he was wrong again.

00:37:28:05 00:37:29:24
Two million people would be dead now

00:37:30:01 00:37:31:09
instead of still.

00:37:31:10 00:37:33:07
Two hundred and four thousand people

00:37:33:08 00:37:35:05
is too much. One person is too much.

00:37:35:10 00:37:36:24
Should never happen from China.

00:37:37:06 00:37:38:18
But what happened is we closed

00:37:39:07 00:37:40:21
it down and now we're reopening and

00:37:40:22 00:37:42:06
we're doing record business.

00:37:42:15 00:37:44:11
We had ten point four million people

00:37:44:12 00:37:45:19
in a four month period that we've

00:37:45:24 00:37:47:08
put back into the workforce.

00:37:47:14 00:37:49:02
That's a record the likes of which

00:37:49:03 00:37:50:12
nobody's ever seen before.

00:37:50:19 00:37:52:09
And he wants to close down the he

00:37:52:10 00:37:53:11
will shut it down again.

00:37:53:16 00:37:55:01
He will destroy this country.

00:37:55:06 00:37:56:16
You know, a lot of people between

00:37:56:17 00:37:59:05
drugs and alcohol and depression,

00:37:59:11 00:38:00:23
when you start shutting it down, you

00:38:00:24 00:38:02:03
take a look at what's happening at

00:38:02:04 00:38:03:17
some of your Democrat run states

00:38:03:22 00:38:05:04
where they have these tough

00:38:05:05 00:38:06:03
shutdowns.

00:38:06:04 00:38:07:15
And I'm telling you, it's because

00:38:07:21 00:38:08:21
they don't want to open it.

00:38:08:22 00:38:10:10
One of them came out last week.

00:38:10:11 00:38:11:11
You saw that?

00:38:11:12 00:38:12:11
Oh, we're going to open up in

00:38:12:12 00:38:13:23
November 9th, why November 9th?

00:38:14:02 00:38:15:13
Because it's after the election.

00:38:15:20 00:38:17:09
They think they're hurting us by

00:38:17:19 00:38:18:19
keeping them closed.

00:38:18:21 00:38:19:21
They're hurting people.

00:38:20:04 00:38:21:06
People know what to do.

00:38:21:11 00:38:22:17
They can social distance.

00:38:22:20 00:38:23:22
They can wash their hands.

00:38:23:23 00:38:24:23
They can wear masks.

00:38:25:02 00:38:26:02
They can do whatever they want.

00:38:26:08 00:38:27:15
But they got to open these states

00:38:27:16 00:38:30:01
up. When you look at North Carolina,

00:38:30:02 00:38:31:16
when you look and these governors

00:38:31:17 00:38:33:16
are under siege, Pennsylvania,

00:38:33:24 00:38:35:12
Michigan and a couple of others,

00:38:35:22 00:38:37:05
you got to open these states up.

00:38:37:09 00:38:38:08
It's not fair.

00:38:38:09 00:38:39:12
You're talking about almost it's

00:38:39:13 00:38:41:06
like being in prison and you look at

00:38:41:08 00:38:42:20
what's going on with divorce.

00:38:43:03 00:38:44:05
Look at what's going on with

00:38:44:06 00:38:45:15
alcoholism and drugs.

00:38:45:16 00:38:47:04
It's a very, very sad thing.

00:38:47:11 00:38:48:14
And he'll close down the whole

00:38:48:15 00:38:50:01
country. This guy will close down

00:38:50:02 00:38:51:17
the whole country and destroy our

00:38:51:18 00:38:52:13
country.

00:38:52:14 00:38:53:20
Our country is coming back

00:38:53:21 00:38:56:01
incredibly well, setting records

00:38:56:02 00:38:56:25
as it does it.

00:38:56:26 00:38:58:15
We don't need somebody to come in

00:38:58:16 00:38:59:23
and say, let's shut it down.

00:39:00:08 00:39:01:21
All right. Your two minutes, sir.

00:39:01:22 00:39:03:01
We're now moved to you,

00:39:04:15 00:39:06:18
as I as I said, posing the question.

00:39:06:20 00:39:08:07
The president says it's a V shaped

00:39:08:08 00:39:10:01
recovery. You say it's a K shaped

00:39:10:13 00:39:11:13
recovery.

00:39:11:14 00:39:12:07
What's the difference?

00:39:12:08 00:39:13:15
Difference is, millionaires

00:39:14:05 00:39:15:19
and billionaires like him in the

00:39:15:20 00:39:17:16
middle of COVID crisis have

00:39:17:17 00:39:18:16
done very well.

00:39:19:02 00:39:21:04
And other billionaires have

00:39:21:07 00:39:23:11
made another 300 billion dollars

00:39:23:24 00:39:25:20
because of his profligate tax

00:39:27:03 00:39:29:03
proposal. And he only focuses

00:39:29:04 00:39:30:03
on the market.

00:39:30:04 00:39:32:04
But you folks at home, you folks

00:39:32:05 00:39:33:18
living in Scranton and Claremont and

00:39:33:19 00:39:34:22
all the small towns and

00:39:34:24 00:39:36:23
Working-Class towns in America, how

00:39:37:12 00:39:39:03
are you doing? This guy paid a

00:39:39:10 00:39:40:25
total of seven hundred fifty dollars

00:39:41:00 00:39:42:02
in taxes. Any mayor?

00:39:43:24 00:39:45:09
I understand you've agreed to the

00:39:45:10 00:39:46:20
two minutes, so please let him have

00:39:46:21 00:39:46:24
it.

00:39:47:00 00:39:47:24
Do I get my time back?

00:39:48:13 00:39:50:16
The fact is that he is in fact

00:39:50:17 00:39:52:11
worked on this in a way that he's

00:39:52:12 00:39:53:11
going to be the first president

00:39:53:12 00:39:55:14
United States to leave office

00:39:55:23 00:39:57:02
having fewer jobs in his

00:39:57:22 00:39:59:17
administration than when he became

00:39:59:18 00:40:00:15
president.

00:40:00:16 00:40:02:08
Fewer jobs than when he became

00:40:02:09 00:40:03:14
president. First one in American

00:40:03:15 00:40:04:07
history.

00:40:04:08 00:40:06:05
Secondly, the people who have

00:40:06:06 00:40:07:19
lost their jobs are those people

00:40:08:09 00:40:09:21
who have been on the front lines.

00:40:10:06 00:40:11:19
Those people who have been saving

00:40:11:20 00:40:13:04
our lives. Those people who have

00:40:13:05 00:40:14:08
been out there dying.

00:40:14:17 00:40:15:16
People who weren't putting

00:40:15:17 00:40:17:08
themselves in a way to make sure

00:40:17:16 00:40:19:10
that we could all try to make it.

00:40:19:19 00:40:22:01
And the idea that he is insisting

00:40:22:10 00:40:24:06
that we can go forward and

00:40:24:07 00:40:26:02
open when you have almost

00:40:26:03 00:40:27:12
half the states in America with a

00:40:27:13 00:40:29:02
significant increase in COVID

00:40:29:10 00:40:31:05
deaths and covered cases

00:40:31:08 00:40:32:12
in the United States, America.

00:40:32:21 00:40:34:07
And he wants to open it up more.

00:40:34:13 00:40:35:21
Why does he want to open it up?

00:40:35:22 00:40:37:05
Why doesn't he take care of America?

00:40:37:16 00:40:39:07
You can't fix the economy

00:40:39:14 00:40:41:15
until you fix the COVID crisis.

00:40:41:21 00:40:43:17
And he has no intention of doing

00:40:43:18 00:40:45:10
anything about making it better for

00:40:45:11 00:40:46:15
you all at home in terms

00:40:47:11 00:40:48:18
of your health and your safety.

00:40:48:22 00:40:49:16
Schools.

00:40:49:17 00:40:50:20
Why aren't schools open?

00:40:51:01 00:40:52:17
Because it costs a lot of money to

00:40:52:20 00:40:53:20
open safely.

00:40:53:25 00:40:55:15
You know, they were going to give

00:40:55:16 00:40:56:20
his administration here to give the

00:40:56:21 00:40:58:22
teachers and school students mask.

00:40:59:04 00:41:00:18
Then he decided, no, couldn't do

00:41:00:21 00:41:02:06
that because it's not a national

00:41:02:07 00:41:03:06
emergency.

00:41:03:07 00:41:04:14
Not a national emergency.

00:41:04:22 00:41:06:18
They've done nothing to help small

00:41:06:19 00:41:07:17
businesses.

00:41:07:18 00:41:09:02
Nothing. They're closing.

00:41:09:10 00:41:11:00
One in six is now gone.

00:41:11:09 00:41:13:10
He ought to get on the job

00:41:13:15 00:41:15:04
and take care of the needs of the

00:41:15:05 00:41:16:16
American people so we can open

00:41:17:08 00:41:17:25
safe.

00:41:17:26 00:41:18:25
Your time is up, sir.

00:41:19:02 00:41:21:00
Do I get to respond to that.

00:41:21:02 00:41:22:17
Well, you both had two minutes, sir.

00:41:23:02 00:41:24:13
Excuse me. He made a statement.

00:41:24:21 00:41:26:17
People want their schools...

00:41:26:21 00:41:28:12
no. People want their schools open.

00:41:28:17 00:41:29:20
They don't want to be shut down.

00:41:30:01 00:41:31:04
They don't want their state shut

00:41:31:05 00:41:32:09
down. They want their restaurants.

00:41:32:10 00:41:33:06
I look at New York.

00:41:33:07 00:41:34:23
It's so sad what's happening in New

00:41:34:24 00:41:36:10
York. It's almost like a ghost town.

00:41:36:17 00:41:38:08
And I'm not sure it can ever recover

00:41:38:09 00:41:39:09
what they've done in New York.

00:41:39:15 00:41:41:14
People want their places open.

00:41:41:20 00:41:42:23
They want to get back to their lives.

00:41:43:13 00:41:44:13
They'll be careful.

00:41:44:20 00:41:45:16
But they want their schools open.

00:41:45:17 00:41:47:12
I'm the one that brought

00:41:47:13 00:41:49:00
back football. By the way, I brought

00:41:49:01 00:41:50:00
back big 10 football.

00:41:50:23 00:41:51:17
It was me.

00:41:51:18 00:41:53:14
And I'm very happy to do it.

00:41:54:07 00:41:55:24
And the people of Ohio are very

00:41:56:00 00:41:56:24
proud of me. [unclear]

00:41:58:12 00:41:59:20
So, gentlemen, we're going to get to

00:41:59:21 00:42:01:11
your economic plans going forward

00:42:01:24 00:42:03:06
in a moment. But first, Mr.

00:42:03:07 00:42:04:25
President, as you well know, there's

00:42:05:03 00:42:07:19
a new report that in 2016,

00:42:07:20 00:42:09:07
the year you were elected president

00:42:09:08 00:42:10:07
and 2017, your

00:42:11:03 00:42:12:18
first year as president, that you

00:42:12:22 00:42:14:18
paid 750

00:42:14:22 00:42:16:22
dollars a year in federal

00:42:16:23 00:42:18:21
income tax each of those

00:42:18:22 00:42:19:21
years. I

00:42:20:18 00:42:22:14
know that you pay a lot of

00:42:22:15 00:42:24:07
other taxes, but I'm asking you the

00:42:24:08 00:42:25:08
specific question.

00:42:25:11 00:42:27:06
Is it true that you paid 750

00:42:27:07 00:42:29:01
dollars in federal

00:42:29:04 00:42:30:04
income taxes each of those two years?

00:42:31:09 00:42:33:08
I paid millions of dollars

00:42:33:10 00:42:35:06
in taxes, millions of dollars

00:42:35:12 00:42:36:12
of income tax.

00:42:36:18 00:42:38:06
And let me just tell you, there

00:42:38:16 00:42:39:23
was a story in one of the papers.

00:42:39:24 00:42:40:11
Show us your tax returns.

00:42:40:12 00:42:41:08
I paid thirty eight million

00:42:42:01 00:42:43:09
dollars one year.

00:42:43:19 00:42:45:15
I paid 27 million dollars in tax

00:42:46:00 00:42:47:09
one year. I went,

00:42:47:25 00:42:49:02
you'll see it as soon as it's

00:42:49:03 00:42:50:02
finished. You'll see it.

00:42:50:04 00:42:51:19
You know, if you wanted to go to the

00:42:51:20 00:42:53:07
Board of Elections, there's one

00:42:53:08 00:42:54:20
hundred and eighteen page or so

00:42:54:21 00:42:56:18
report that says everything

00:42:56:19 00:42:58:05
I have, every bank I have, I'm

00:42:58:13 00:43:00:06
totally under leveraged because the

00:43:00:10 00:43:01:23
assets are extremely good

00:43:02:07 00:43:03:24
and we have a very we have...

00:43:04:07 00:43:05:07
I built our....

00:43:10:24 00:43:12:16
Mr. President, I'm asking you a

00:43:12:17 00:43:13:16
specific question.

00:43:13:18 00:43:15:04
Will you tell us how much you

00:43:15:17 00:43:17:19
paid in federal income taxes

00:43:18:03 00:43:20:08
in 2016 and 2017?

00:43:20:10 00:43:21:14
Millions of dollars.

00:43:21:17 00:43:22:21
You paid millions of dollars.

00:43:22:22 00:43:22:25
Not 750?

00:43:22:26 00:43:23:21
Millions of dollars,

00:43:25:01 00:43:26:12
and you'll get to see it ...and

00:43:26:13 00:43:27:12
you'll get to see it.

00:43:27:16 00:43:29:04
But let me tell you, Chris, let

00:43:29:13 00:43:30:13
me just tell you something

00:43:31:10 00:43:33:05
it was the tax laws, I don't want to

00:43:33:06 00:43:34:04
pay tax.

00:43:34:05 00:43:36:02
Before I came here, I was

00:43:36:03 00:43:37:01
a private developer.

00:43:37:02 00:43:38:02
I was a private business people.

00:43:38:18 00:43:40:07
Like every other private person,

00:43:40:08 00:43:41:20
unless they're stupid, they go

00:43:42:04 00:43:43:22
through the laws and that's what it

00:43:43:24 00:43:44:11
is.

00:43:44:12 00:43:45:17
He passed a tax bill that

00:43:46:08 00:43:48:05
gave us all these privileges for

00:43:48:06 00:43:50:06
depreciation and for

00:43:50:15 00:43:51:11
tax credits.

00:43:51:12 00:43:53:05
We built the building and we get tax

00:43:53:06 00:43:54:18
credits like the hotel on

00:43:54:19 00:43:55:14
Pennsylvania Avenue.

00:43:55:15 00:43:57:03
You get a massive which, by the way,

00:43:57:09 00:43:59:10
was given to me by the Obama

00:43:59:13 00:44:00:24
administration, if you can believe

00:44:01:00 00:44:01:17
that.

00:44:01:18 00:44:03:05
Now, the men got fire out right

00:44:03:08 00:44:04:18
after that happened, but I started

00:44:04:19 00:44:05:20
inviting you to respond.

00:44:06:02 00:44:07:02
Yeah, I do want to respond.

00:44:07:11 00:44:09:09
Look, the tax code that

00:44:09:13 00:44:11:10
made him put

00:44:11:11 00:44:13:05
him in a position that he pays less

00:44:13:06 00:44:14:19
tax than a schoolteacher

00:44:15:04 00:44:16:07
make the money a school

00:44:16:25 00:44:19:01
teacher makes is because of

00:44:19:06 00:44:20:23
him take. He says he's smart because

00:44:20:24 00:44:22:16
he can take advantage of the tax

00:44:22:21 00:44:24:09
code and he does take advantage

00:44:24:20 00:44:26:08
of a tax cut. That's why I'm going

00:44:26:09 00:44:28:00
to eliminate the Trump tax cuts

00:44:28:08 00:44:29:09
and we're going to rack and

00:44:29:10 00:44:31:07
eliminate those taxes and

00:44:31:08 00:44:32:20
make sure that we invest in the

00:44:32:21 00:44:34:22
people who, in fact, need to help

00:44:35:05 00:44:36:25
people out there need help.

00:44:37:01 00:44:38:12
But why do you guys do it over the

00:44:38:13 00:44:39:14
last 25 years?

00:44:39:15 00:44:41:10
Because we do it because

00:44:41:11 00:44:43:04
you are president screwing things

00:44:43:05 00:44:44:21
up. You are a senator and you're the

00:44:44:22 00:44:46:22
worst president in America has ever

00:44:46:23 00:44:47:23
had job.

00:44:48:02 00:44:49:20
Let me just say, Joe, I've done more

00:44:49:21 00:44:50:20
in in 47

00:44:51:21 00:44:53:09
months. I've done more than you've

00:44:53:10 00:44:54:24
done in 47 years, Joe.

00:44:55:09 00:44:56:17
We've done things that you never

00:44:56:18 00:44:58:15
even thought of, including mixing

00:44:58:16 00:45:00:05
the broken military that you gave

00:45:00:07 00:45:01:16
me, taking care of you.

00:45:02:00 00:45:03:06
Mr. President, we're talking about

00:45:03:07 00:45:04:20
the economy. I'd like to ask you

00:45:04:22 00:45:06:18
about your plans going forward,

00:45:07:05 00:45:08:21
because, Mr. Vice President, your

00:45:09:01 00:45:10:01
economic plan

00:45:11:01 00:45:12:14
if you were to be elected president

00:45:12:21 00:45:14:13
focuses a lot on big government, big

00:45:14:14 00:45:16:06
taxes, big spending.

00:45:16:07 00:45:18:11
I want to focus first on the taxes.

00:45:18:21 00:45:20:22
You proposed more than four

00:45:20:24 00:45:22:15
trillion dollars over a decade and

00:45:22:19 00:45:24:14
new taxes on

00:45:24:18 00:45:26:01
individuals making more than four

00:45:26:02 00:45:27:18
hundred thousand dollars a year and

00:45:27:20 00:45:29:03
on corporations.

00:45:29:13 00:45:31:06
President Trump says that that kind

00:45:31:09 00:45:33:03
of increase in taxes

00:45:33:15 00:45:35:10
is going to hurt the economy

00:45:35:11 00:45:36:13
as it's just coming out of a

00:45:36:14 00:45:36:25
recession.

00:45:37:00 00:45:38:15
Well, just take a look at what is

00:45:38:23 00:45:40:04
the analysis been done by

00:45:40:22 00:45:41:22
Wall Street firms.

00:45:42:09 00:45:43:23
Points out that might

00:45:44:07 00:45:46:15
my economic plan would create seven

00:45:46:21 00:45:48:11
million more jobs than his in four

00:45:48:12 00:45:49:12
years, number one.

00:45:49:24 00:45:51:23
And number two, it would create

00:45:52:01 00:45:53:17
an additional one trillion dollars

00:45:53:20 00:45:55:07
in economic growth because it would

00:45:55:08 00:45:56:07
be about buying

00:45:57:03 00:45:58:23
American, that we have to, we're

00:45:58:24 00:46:00:04
gonna make the federal government

00:46:00:05 00:46:01:19
spend six hundred billion dollars

00:46:02:01 00:46:03:21
a year on everything from ships

00:46:04:02 00:46:06:01
to steel to buildings

00:46:06:02 00:46:06:25
and the like.

00:46:07:00 00:46:08:17
And under my proposal, we're going

00:46:08:19 00:46:10:15
to make sure that every penny of

00:46:10:16 00:46:12:22
that has to be made by

00:46:13:01 00:46:14:01
a company.

00:46:14:10 00:46:15:13
But respectfully, sir, I'm talking
about taxes,

00:46:15:14 00:46:16:10
not spending.

00:46:16:11 00:46:17:16
Well, by the way, I'm going to

00:46:17:17 00:46:19:12
eliminate significant number the tax

00:46:19:13 00:46:20:20
I know make the, the, the

00:46:21:12 00:46:22:24
corporate tax 28 percent.

00:46:22:25 00:46:24:06
It shouldn't be 21 percent.

00:46:24:13 00:46:26:04
You have 19 companies,

00:46:26:22 00:46:28:07
91 companies, federal.

00:46:28:09 00:46:29:16
I mean, in the Fortune 500

00:46:30:05 00:46:31:25
who don't pay a single penny in tax,

00:46:31:26 00:46:33:00
making billions of dollars.

00:46:33:01 00:46:34:11
Why didn't you do it before when you
were Vice President for Obama?

00:46:36:15 00:46:38:12
Because you in fact, passed that,

00:46:38:22 00:46:40:03
that we feel like tax repro.

00:46:40:06 00:46:41:01
Get it done. And, you know,.

00:46:41:02 00:46:42:02
It happened and you got it down.

00:46:42:03 00:46:43:03
Economy boom.

00:46:43:07 00:46:44:24
It's never been the economy of

00:46:45:07 00:46:45:24
president.

00:46:46:00 00:46:46:19
Let me.

00:46:46:20 00:46:48:01
Mr President, let me pick up on

00:46:48:02 00:46:49:22
that. You would continue

00:46:50:05 00:46:51:17
your free market approach.

00:46:51:19 00:46:54:07
Lower taxes, more deregulation.

00:46:54:08 00:46:54:16
Correct.

00:46:54:17 00:46:56:04
Not lower taxes of American people.

00:46:57:09 00:46:58:13
But. But in Obama's, you

00:46:59:07 00:47:00:11
talk about the economy booming.

00:47:00:19 00:47:02:11
It turns out that in Obama's final

00:47:02:17 00:47:04:04
three years as president,

00:47:04:17 00:47:06:21
more jobs were created, a million

00:47:06:22 00:47:08:18
and a half more jobs than

00:47:08:19 00:47:10:06
in the first three years of your

00:47:10:07 00:47:11:04
presidency.

00:47:11:05 00:47:13:03
They had the slowest recovery

00:47:13:14 00:47:15:01
since 19..., economic recovery

00:47:15:13 00:47:17:04
since 1929.

00:47:17:11 00:47:19:06
It was the slowest recovery.

00:47:19:10 00:47:21:10
Also, they took over something

00:47:21:11 00:47:22:14
that was down here. All you had to

00:47:22:15 00:47:23:22
do is turn on the lights and you

00:47:23:23 00:47:24:20
pick up a lot.

00:47:24:21 00:47:26:10
But they had the slowest economic

00:47:26:11 00:47:28:07
recovery since 1929.

00:47:28:08 00:47:29:16
Let me talk about the stock market.

00:47:30:01 00:47:31:13
When the stock market goes up, that

00:47:31:14 00:47:32:07
means jobs.

00:47:32:08 00:47:33:17
It also means 401K's,

00:47:34:12 00:47:36:10
if you got in, if you ever became

00:47:36:11 00:47:37:23
president with your ideas, you want

00:47:37:24 00:47:40:00
to terminate my tax, my taxes.

00:47:40:09 00:47:42:02
I'll tell you what you'll lose half

00:47:42:03 00:47:43:12
of the companies that have poured in

00:47:43:13 00:47:44:15
here will leave.

00:47:44:21 00:47:46:06
And plenty of companies that are

00:47:46:07 00:47:47:16
already here, they'll largely other

00:47:47:17 00:47:49:09
places have they will leave and you

00:47:49:15 00:47:50:15
will have a depression,.

00:47:50:16 00:47:52:13
The likes of which you've never

00:47:52:14 00:47:52:21
seen.

00:47:52:22 00:47:54:17
Look, we inherited

00:47:55:10 00:47:56:22
the worst recession short of a

00:47:57:06 00:47:58:18
depression in American history.

00:47:59:01 00:48:00:16
I was asked to bring it back.

00:48:00:22 00:48:02:11
We were able to have an economic

00:48:02:12 00:48:03:22
recovery that created the jobs

00:48:03:23 00:48:04:22
you're talking about.

00:48:05:00 00:48:06:24
We handed him a booming economy.

00:48:07:03 00:48:07:22
He blew it.

00:48:07:23 00:48:09:06
It was it. He looing he blew

00:48:09:22 00:48:10:18
us in booming.

00:48:10:19 00:48:12:04
It was well, it was the week on the

00:48:12:05 00:48:13:15
street. There is a certain way.

00:48:13:16 00:48:14:16
Why is it.

00:48:14:17 00:48:16:12
Is it fair to say he blew it when -.

00:48:16:13 00:48:17:13
And when I go with it.

00:48:17:18 00:48:19:08
When there was record low

00:48:19:09 00:48:20:21
unemployment before Covid?

00:48:21:07 00:48:23:07
Yeah. Because what he did even

00:48:23:08 00:48:24:20
before Covid manufacturing went

00:48:25:03 00:48:25:25
in the hole.

00:48:26:00 00:48:27:15
Manufacturing went in a hole.

00:48:27:24 00:48:29:22
Excuse me, Swabia to Chris.

00:48:30:00 00:48:31:12
Number three, they said you would

00:48:31:13 00:48:32:18
take it. Now you're number two.

00:48:32:20 00:48:33:14
No,.

00:48:33:15 00:48:34:14
Chris. Chris.

00:48:34:24 00:48:37:04
They said it would is a miracle

00:48:37:05 00:48:38:20
to bring back manufacturing.

00:48:39:01 00:48:40:25
I brought back 700,000 jobs.

00:48:41:05 00:48:42:07
They brought back nothing.

00:48:42:08 00:48:43:21
They gave up on manufacturing.

00:48:43:22 00:48:45:11
We are now standard fare.

00:48:45:17 00:48:47:11
I'm the guy that told, like on one

00:48:47:12 00:48:48:07
million back. All right.

00:48:48:08 00:48:49:13
But we brought back.

00:48:49:15 00:48:51:15
I was asked to bring back Chrysler

00:48:51:16 00:48:52:21
and General Motors brought them back

00:48:52:22 00:48:54:03
right here in the state of Ohio, in

00:48:54:04 00:48:55:12
Michigan. He blew it.

00:48:55:14 00:48:56:19
They're gone. He blew it.

00:48:56:21 00:48:57:21
And in fact -

00:48:58:02 00:48:59:23
They're going hio had the best year

00:48:59:24 00:49:01:08
it's ever had last year.

00:49:01:12 00:49:03:07
Michigan had the best year they've

00:49:03:08 00:49:04:13
ever had. It's not your.

00:49:04:20 00:49:06:14
Companies come in from Germany, from

00:49:06:15 00:49:08:04
John and I went to Michigan.

00:49:08:05 00:49:09:14
It went to Ohio, not high.

00:49:09:17 00:49:10:17
And they didn't tell me to do.

00:49:10:18 00:49:11:19
Mr. Vice President go ahead.

00:49:11:20 00:49:13:17
And so you take a look at what

00:49:13:18 00:49:14:18
he's actually done.

00:49:15:01 00:49:16:15
He's done very little.

00:49:16:23 00:49:18:12
His trade deals are the same way.

00:49:18:17 00:49:20:06
He talks about these great trade

00:49:20:07 00:49:21:18
deals. You know, he talks about the

00:49:21:19 00:49:22:14
art of the deal.

00:49:22:15 00:49:24:05
China's made perfected the art of

00:49:24:06 00:49:25:02
the steal.

00:49:25:03 00:49:26:19
We have a higher deficit with China

00:49:26:20 00:49:28:00
now than we did before.

00:49:28:06 00:49:29:16
We have the highest deficit, trade

00:49:29:17 00:49:31:01
deficit, China with Mexico on

00:49:31:10 00:49:33:07
steroids. El-Naggar sent in China

00:49:33:08 00:49:33:15
eight.

00:49:33:16 00:49:34:14
Your lunch, Joe.

00:49:34:15 00:49:35:23
And no wonder your son goes in and

00:49:35:24 00:49:36:23
he takes out, what,

00:49:37:21 00:49:40:00
he takes out billions of dollars,

00:49:40:06 00:49:41:19
takes out billions of dollars to

00:49:41:20 00:49:43:05
manage. He makes millions of dollars

00:49:43:13 00:49:45:04
and also said while we're at it,

00:49:45:10 00:49:47:10
why is it just out of curiosity,

00:49:48:01 00:49:49:24
the mayor of Moscow's wife,

00:49:50:00 00:49:51:06
gave you son three and a half

00:49:51:07 00:49:52:22
million dollars as what did he do to

00:49:52:23 00:49:53:14
deserve it?

00:49:53:15 00:49:55:15
That you do with Barazan

00:49:55:17 00:49:57:06
of deserve a one hundred eighty

00:49:57:07 00:49:59:08
three thousand dollars on that last

00:49:59:09 00:50:01:00
and an answer, if not none of that

00:50:01:08 00:50:02:08
is true is really hard.

00:50:02:10 00:50:03:19
Now the president is totally

00:50:04:17 00:50:07:00
president plays totally discredited,

00:50:07:08 00:50:08:08
totally discredited.

00:50:08:09 00:50:09:05
And by the way.

00:50:09:06 00:50:10:05
Well, we I.

00:50:10:09 00:50:11:05
A million dollars.

00:50:11:06 00:50:12:05
Yeah. Mr. Vice.

00:50:12:06 00:50:13:21
He got three dollars.

00:50:14:02 00:50:15:01
That is not true.

00:50:15:02 00:50:17:03
Really? Mr. President, I miss you.

00:50:17:06 00:50:18:17
It's an it's an open discussion.

00:50:18:18 00:50:19:21
Please. How about you?

00:50:19:22 00:50:20:18
It's a fact.

00:50:20:19 00:50:22:13
Well, you have raised an issue

00:50:22:14 00:50:23:20
like there's been times rather than

00:50:23:21 00:50:25:15
answer discredited burglars are

00:50:25:18 00:50:27:18
here 183 Thalia's a month

00:50:28:09 00:50:30:01
with no experience and energy.

00:50:30:23 00:50:33:01
Now, GI Song did nothing wrong.

00:50:33:02 00:50:34:07
And in I think you did.

00:50:34:09 00:50:36:03
Mr. Presley died of cancer.

00:50:37:03 00:50:38:06
He didn't even let me answer because

00:50:38:07 00:50:39:10
he knows I have the truth.

00:50:39:22 00:50:41:13
His position has been totally,

00:50:41:14 00:50:42:14
thoroughly discredited.

00:50:43:01 00:50:44:16
And good idea by everybody.

00:50:44:17 00:50:45:16
Well, by the media.

00:50:45:23 00:50:46:23
By our allies.

00:50:47:02 00:50:48:03
By the World Bank.

00:50:50:18 00:50:52:19
By everyone has discredited.

00:50:53:02 00:50:54:15
Matter of fact, matter of fact, has

00:50:54:16 00:50:55:19
been the president who tells us that

00:50:55:20 00:50:57:07
he lied under oath.

00:50:57:12 00:50:58:12
So let me ask you this.

00:50:58:17 00:50:59:22
Oh, no doubt. Go ahead, Mr..

00:51:00:01 00:51:01:12
I'm listening to you. People under

00:51:01:15 00:51:03:08
you get three and a half testify on

00:51:03:09 00:51:04:08
a scale test.

00:51:04:09 00:51:05:22
He testified under oath and his

00:51:05:23 00:51:07:09
administration said, I did my

00:51:08:01 00:51:09:18
job and I did it very well.

00:51:09:23 00:51:11:10
I longer know who they are.

00:51:11:16 00:51:13:04
Every war. I'll give you the list of

00:51:13:05 00:51:14:04
the people who test.

00:51:14:05 00:51:15:04
Go ahead, sir.

00:51:15:10 00:51:16:20
You've already fired most of them

00:51:16:21 00:51:18:02
because they didn't do a job.

00:51:18:03 00:51:19:12
Some people don't. Well, here's it

00:51:20:08 00:51:21:08
with you guys.

00:51:21:12 00:51:22:13
Wait a minute. You get the final

00:51:22:14 00:51:23:02
word, Millo.

00:51:23:03 00:51:24:09
It's hard to get any word in with

00:51:24:10 00:51:25:14
this clown. Excuse me.

00:51:25:15 00:51:26:21
This. Let me just say it.

00:51:26:23 00:51:28:10
No, no, no. Mr. President.

00:51:28:11 00:51:29:10
Running for president.

00:51:29:11 00:51:30:20
No. That is simply why did I

00:51:31:08 00:51:32:16
deserve three and a half million

00:51:32:17 00:51:33:08
from Moscow?

00:51:33:09 00:51:34:16
Look, here's the deal.

00:51:35:03 00:51:36:23
We want to talk about families

00:51:37:03 00:51:38:03
and ethics.

00:51:38:10 00:51:39:10
I don't want to do that.

00:51:39:19 00:51:40:17
I mean, his family.

00:51:40:18 00:51:41:22
We could talk about all night.

00:51:42:00 00:51:43:07
His family's are his family.

00:51:43:15 00:51:45:09
Let him. Have already lost a fortune

00:51:45:20 00:51:47:07
by coming down and helping out with

00:51:47:08 00:51:48:07
governor. Had said that.

00:51:48:10 00:51:50:02
I said Mr. President, such a single

00:51:50:13 00:51:52:12
one of them was this is not about my

00:51:52:13 00:51:53:17
family or his family.

00:51:53:18 00:51:54:24
It's about your family.

00:51:55:01 00:51:56:13
Feeding American and a half million

00:51:56:15 00:51:58:02
doesn't. That's not true.

00:51:58:03 00:52:00:07
He doesn't want to talk about

00:52:00:15 00:52:01:21
what you need.

00:52:01:22 00:52:03:16
You, the American people.

00:52:03:21 00:52:04:21
It's about you.

00:52:05:01 00:52:06:02
That's what we're talking about.

00:52:06:07 00:52:07:07
All right.

00:52:07:11 00:52:08:14
That's the end of the segment we're

00:52:08:21 00:52:09:20
we're moving on.

00:52:09:21 00:52:11:07
It didn't take that vice president.

00:52:11:20 00:52:12:19
No. Can I be honest.

00:52:12:20 00:52:13:16
It's a very important question.

00:52:13:17 00:52:14:16
Try to be honest. He stood up. No. He
stood up.

00:52:16:09 00:52:17:11
The answer of the question is no. And
he threatened

00:52:17:25 00:52:19:09
Ukraine. No, sir.

00:52:19:12 00:52:20:18
With a billion, sir, dollars, you've

00:52:20:19 00:52:21:19
got.

00:52:21:20 00:52:23:04
That is absolutely not true. You
know, what. Stop. When you're way

00:52:23:05 00:52:24:06
not off route, you're out doing it.

00:52:24:07 00:52:25:13
You're going to have a true.

00:52:27:18 00:52:28:18
Gentlemen. I hate to raise my voice,

00:52:28:19 00:52:29:18
but I seems to be.

00:52:29:24 00:52:30:25
Why shouldn't I be different than

00:52:31:00 00:52:32:00
the two of you?

00:52:32:01 00:52:33:01
So here's the deal.

00:52:33:10 00:52:34:10
We have

00:52:35:12 00:52:37:01
six segments, we have ended that

00:52:37:02 00:52:38:13
segment. We're going to go to the

00:52:38:14 00:52:40:05
next segment in that segment.

00:52:40:12 00:52:41:14
You each are going to have two

00:52:41:15 00:52:43:14
uninterrupted moments in those two

00:52:43:15 00:52:44:22
interrupted minutes, Mr. President.

00:52:44:23 00:52:46:06
You can say anything you want.

00:52:47:02 00:52:48:06
I've been asked a question about

00:52:48:07 00:52:49:13
race. But if you want to answer

00:52:49:14 00:52:50:20
about something else, go ahead.

00:52:51:01 00:52:52:20
But I think the

00:52:53:02 00:52:54:15
country would be better served

00:52:54:25 00:52:57:01
if we allowed both people to speak

00:52:57:05 00:52:58:16
with fewer interruptions.

00:52:58:17 00:53:00:03
I'm appealing to you, sir, to do

00:53:00:04 00:53:01:09
that. And him, too.

00:53:01:18 00:53:02:24
Well, frankly, you've been doing

00:53:03:00 00:53:03:24
more interrupting. That's right.

00:53:04:03 00:53:05:15
But he does plenty well.

00:53:05:20 00:53:07:02
Less than, sir, less than.

00:53:07:03 00:53:07:23
He does plenty.

00:53:07:24 00:53:08:24
No, less than you have.

00:53:09:04 00:53:10:17
Let's please continue on

00:53:11:13 00:53:12:10
the issue of race.

00:53:12:11 00:53:14:01
Vice President Biden, you say that

00:53:14:08 00:53:16:14
President Trump's response

00:53:16:24 00:53:18:15
to the violence in Charlottesville

00:53:18:18 00:53:20:05
three years ago when he talked

00:53:20:17 00:53:21:23
about very fine people on

00:53:22:13 00:53:24:23
both sides, was what directly

00:53:24:24 00:53:25:24
led you to

00:53:27:04 00:53:28:17
launch this run for president.

00:53:28:18 00:53:29:16
Oh, yeah sure.

00:53:29:17 00:53:31:14
President Trump, you

00:53:31:17 00:53:33:11
have often said that you believe you

00:53:33:15 00:53:34:19
have done more for black

00:53:35:17 00:53:37:11
Americans than any president, with

00:53:37:12 00:53:39:01
the possible exception

00:53:39:10 00:53:40:06
of Abraham Lincoln.

00:53:40:07 00:53:41:09
It's true. My question for the two

00:53:41:10 00:53:43:14
of you is, why should voters

00:53:43:15 00:53:45:22
trust you rather than your opponent

00:53:46:06 00:53:47:24
to deal with the race issues facing

00:53:48:04 00:53:49:12
this country over the next four

00:53:49:13 00:53:51:01
years? Vice President Biden, you

00:53:51:08 00:53:52:08
go first.

00:53:53:00 00:53:55:03
It's about equity and equality,

00:53:55:06 00:53:56:13
it's about decency.

00:53:56:17 00:53:58:05
It's about the Constitution.

00:53:58:24 00:54:00:18
And we have never walked away from

00:54:01:01 00:54:02:19
trying to require

00:54:03:01 00:54:04:21
equity for everyone, equality for

00:54:04:22 00:54:05:24
the whole of America.

00:54:06:14 00:54:08:08
But we've never accomplished it,

00:54:08:12 00:54:10:05
but we've never walked away from it

00:54:10:06 00:54:11:06
like he has done.

00:54:11:15 00:54:13:01
It is true. The reason I got in the

00:54:13:02 00:54:14:14
race is when most people close your

00:54:14:15 00:54:15:21
eyes, remember what those people

00:54:15:22 00:54:17:04
look like coming out of the fields,

00:54:17:05 00:54:18:21
carrying torches, their veins

00:54:18:24 00:54:19:24
bulging spewing,

00:54:21:07 00:54:23:17
just spewing anti-Semitic bile

00:54:23:24 00:54:25:14
and accompanied by the Ku Klux Klan.

00:54:25:15 00:54:27:05
A young woman got killed and they

00:54:27:09 00:54:28:09
asked the president what he thought

00:54:28:10 00:54:30:13
he said were very fine people

00:54:30:14 00:54:31:14
on both sides.

00:54:31:17 00:54:33:10
No president has ever said anything

00:54:33:24 00:54:34:24
like that.

00:54:35:06 00:54:37:05
It is now second, sir.

00:54:37:09 00:54:38:21
Second point I'd make to you

00:54:39:05 00:54:41:06
is that when Floyd

00:54:41:07 00:54:43:03
was when Mr. Floyd was killed,

00:54:43:16 00:54:44:23
there was a peaceful protest in

00:54:44:24 00:54:45:24
front of the White House.

00:54:46:09 00:54:47:08
What did he do?

00:54:47:09 00:54:48:23
He came out of his bunker, had the

00:54:48:24 00:54:50:20
military to use tear

00:54:50:21 00:54:52:14
gas on them so he could walk across

00:54:52:21 00:54:54:15
to a church and hold up a Bible.

00:54:54:25 00:54:56:17
And then what happened after that?

00:54:56:23 00:54:58:18
The bishop of that very church said

00:54:58:25 00:55:00:04
that it was a disgrace.

00:55:00:09 00:55:02:02
The general who was with him said

00:55:02:06 00:55:03:22
he only only ever wants to divide

00:55:04:13 00:55:06:07
people, not unite people at all.

00:55:06:16 00:55:08:05
This is a president who has used

00:55:08:07 00:55:09:24
everything as a dog whistle

00:55:10:05 00:55:12:02
to try to generate racist

00:55:12:06 00:55:13:25
hatred, racist division.

00:55:14:07 00:55:16:01
This is a man who, in fact, you talk

00:55:16:04 00:55:17:17
about helping African-Americans.

00:55:18:08 00:55:21:01
One in 1000 African-Americans

00:55:21:02 00:55:23:01
has been kille because of the cone,

00:55:23:03 00:55:25:06
the Coronavirus, and if he doesn't

00:55:25:07 00:55:26:18
do something quickly by the end of

00:55:26:19 00:55:28:14
the year, one in 500

00:55:28:17 00:55:29:17
will have been killed.

00:55:29:21 00:55:30:21
One in five hundred

00:55:30:24 00:55:31:24
African-Americans.

00:55:32:05 00:55:33:21
This man this man

00:55:34:05 00:55:35:14
is the is the savior of

00:55:35:15 00:55:36:15
African-Americans?

00:55:36:19 00:55:38:15
This man cares at all?

00:55:39:00 00:55:40:24
This man's done virtually nothing.

00:55:41:06 00:55:43:03
Look, the fact is that you have to

00:55:43:04 00:55:44:14
look at what he's talking about.

00:55:44:23 00:55:46:12
You have to look at what he did.

00:55:46:18 00:55:48:16
And what he did has been disastrous

00:55:48:20 00:55:50:06
for the African-American community.

00:55:50:20 00:55:52:15
So, President Trump, you have

00:55:52:16 00:55:53:06
two minutes.

00:55:53:07 00:55:55:03
Why should Americans

00:55:55:06 00:55:56:15
trust you over your opponent

00:55:57:11 00:55:58:05
to deal with race.

00:55:58:06 00:56:00:09
He did a crime bill, 1994,

00:56:00:24 00:56:03:02
where you call them super predators.

00:56:03:03 00:56:04:11
African-Americans are super

00:56:04:13 00:56:05:17
predators and they've never

00:56:05:18 00:56:06:23
forgotten it. They've never

00:56:06:24 00:56:07:23
forgotten it Joe. I never said.

00:56:07:25 00:56:08:25
No, sir. It's his two minutes.

00:56:09:04 00:56:10:16
So you did that and they call you a

00:56:10:18 00:56:11:17
super predator.

00:56:11:18 00:56:13:06
And I'm letting people out of jail.

00:56:13:07 00:56:15:01
Now that you have treated the

00:56:15:02 00:56:16:10
African-American population

00:56:17:15 00:56:18:22
community, you have treated the

00:56:18:23 00:56:20:22
black community about as bad

00:56:20:23 00:56:22:06
as anybody in this country.

00:56:22:07 00:56:23:07
You did the ninety.

00:56:23:13 00:56:25:04
And that's why if you look at the

00:56:25:07 00:56:26:21
polls, I'm doing better than any

00:56:26:22 00:56:28:22
Republican has done in a long time

00:56:29:02 00:56:30:14
because they saw what you did.

00:56:30:20 00:56:33:01
You call them super predators

00:56:33:03 00:56:34:09
and you've called them worse than

00:56:34:10 00:56:36:02
that, because you look back at your

00:56:36:03 00:56:37:08
testimony over the years, you've

00:56:37:09 00:56:38:17
called them a lot worse than that as

00:56:38:18 00:56:40:03
far as the church is concerned.

00:56:40:10 00:56:41:16
And as far as the generals are

00:56:41:17 00:56:43:08
concerned, we just got the support

00:56:43:13 00:56:45:11
of 200, 250

00:56:45:12 00:56:47:03
military leaders and generals,

00:56:47:09 00:56:49:12
total support, law enforcement,

00:56:49:13 00:56:51:06
almost every law enforcement

00:56:51:12 00:56:53:03
group in the United States.

00:56:53:04 00:56:53:24
I have Florida.

00:56:54:00 00:56:54:24
I have Texas.

00:56:55:06 00:56:56:17
I have Ohio.

00:56:56:24 00:56:58:02
I have every excuse me,

00:56:58:20 00:57:00:17
Portland. The sheriff just came

00:57:00:18 00:57:02:08
out today and he said, I support

00:57:02:14 00:57:03:13
President Trump.

00:57:03:14 00:57:04:22
I don't think you have any law

00:57:04:23 00:57:06:10
enforcement. You can't even say the

00:57:06:11 00:57:07:21
word law enforce, because if you say

00:57:07:22 00:57:09:12
those words, you're going to lose

00:57:09:13 00:57:11:05
all of your radical left supporters.

00:57:11:13 00:57:12:22
And why aren't you saying those

00:57:12:23 00:57:14:08
words Joe? Why don't you say the

00:57:14:09 00:57:15:07
words law enforcement?

00:57:15:08 00:57:16:11
Because you know what?

00:57:16:12 00:57:18:10
If they called us in Portland, we

00:57:18:11 00:57:20:05
would put out that fire in a half

00:57:20:06 00:57:21:16
an hour. But they won't do it

00:57:21:17 00:57:23:06
because they're run by radical left

00:57:23:07 00:57:24:05
Democrats.

00:57:24:06 00:57:25:17
If you look at Chicago, if you

00:57:26:01 00:57:27:20
look at any place you want to look,

00:57:27:21 00:57:29:12
Seattle, they heard we were coming

00:57:29:19 00:57:31:07
in the following day and they put up

00:57:31:08 00:57:32:24
their hands and we got back Seattle,

00:57:33:08 00:57:34:08
Minneapolis.

00:57:34:10 00:57:35:25
We got it back, Joe, because

00:57:36:08 00:57:37:12
we believe in law and order.

00:57:37:13 00:57:38:13
But you don't.

00:57:38:16 00:57:40:14
The top ten cities and just about

00:57:40:15 00:57:42:16
the top 40 cities are

00:57:42:23 00:57:44:04
run by Democrats, in many

00:57:44:19 00:57:46:04
cases, radical left.

00:57:46:06 00:57:47:17
And they've got you wrapped around

00:57:47:18 00:57:49:09
their finger, Joe, to a point where

00:57:49:10 00:57:51:02
you don't want to say anything about

00:57:51:03 00:57:52:02
law and order.

00:57:52:05 00:57:53:22
And I'll tell you what the people of

00:57:53:23 00:57:56:05
this country want and demand

00:57:56:09 00:57:57:19
law and order. And you're afraid to

00:57:57:20 00:57:58:17
even say it.

00:57:58:18 00:58:00:04
All right. I want to I want to

00:58:00:08 00:58:02:04
return to the question of race.

00:58:02:18 00:58:04:04
Vice President Biden, after the

00:58:04:05 00:58:05:18
grand jury and the Briona Taylor

00:58:06:05 00:58:08:09
case decided not to charge

00:58:08:10 00:58:10:19
any of the police with homicide.

00:58:10:20 00:58:12:05
You said it raises the question,

00:58:12:06 00:58:14:05
quote, whether justice

00:58:14:06 00:58:16:13
could be equally applied in America.

00:58:16:15 00:58:18:09
Do you believe that there is

00:58:18:12 00:58:20:08
a separate but unequal

00:58:20:09 00:58:21:18
system of justice for blacks

00:58:22:07 00:58:23:03
in this country?

00:58:23:04 00:58:24:03
Yes, there is. There's systemic.
There's

00:58:24:22 00:58:26:21
systemic injustice in this

00:58:26:22 00:58:28:16
country, in education and work

00:58:28:17 00:58:30:19
and in in law enforcement

00:58:31:06 00:58:33:02
and the way in which it's enforced.

00:58:33:09 00:58:34:22
But, look, the vast majority of

00:58:35:00 00:58:36:17
police officers are good, decent,

00:58:36:20 00:58:37:23
honorable men and women.

00:58:38:09 00:58:39:18
They risk their lives every day to

00:58:39:19 00:58:40:18
take care of us.

00:58:40:20 00:58:42:05
But there are some bad apples.

00:58:42:06 00:58:43:18
And when they occur, when they find

00:58:43:19 00:58:45:13
them, they have to be sorted out.

00:58:45:20 00:58:47:06
They have to be held accountable.

00:58:47:13 00:58:48:20
They have to be held accountable.

00:58:49:03 00:58:49:24
And what I'm going to do as

00:58:50:00 00:58:51:04
President of the United States is

00:58:51:05 00:58:52:05
called a...

00:58:52:18 00:58:53:24
Together, an entire group

00:58:54:16 00:58:56:11
of people at the White House, from

00:58:56:17 00:58:57:22
everything from a civil rights

00:58:57:23 00:58:59:08
groups to the police officers, the

00:58:59:09 00:59:00:19
police chiefs, and we're going to

00:59:00:20 00:59:01:19
work this out.

00:59:01:21 00:59:03:03
We're going to work this out, so we

00:59:03:04 00:59:04:20
change the way in which we have more

00:59:04:21 00:59:05:23
transparency when these

00:59:06:16 00:59:07:14
things happen.

00:59:07:15 00:59:09:05
These cops aren't happy to see what

00:59:09:06 00:59:11:04
happened to George Floyd.

00:59:11:11 00:59:13:04
These cops aren't happy to see what

00:59:13:08 00:59:14:23
happened to Breonna Taylor.

00:59:15:12 00:59:16:16
Most don't like it.

00:59:16:24 00:59:18:19
But we have to have a system where

00:59:18:20 00:59:20:06
people are held accountable when,

00:59:20:07 00:59:21:06
and by the way.

00:59:21:11 00:59:22:22
Violence in response is never

00:59:23:05 00:59:24:03
appropriate.

00:59:24:04 00:59:25:04
Never appropriate.

00:59:25:12 00:59:27:10
Peaceful protest is, violence

00:59:27:11 00:59:28:14
is never appropriate.

00:59:28:17 00:59:29:04
Alright.

00:59:29:05 00:59:30:18
What is peaceful protest when they

00:59:30:19 00:59:31:24
run through the middle of the town

00:59:32:00 00:59:34:01
and burn down your stores

00:59:34:02 00:59:35:01
and kill people all over the place?

00:59:35:04 00:59:36:04
President Trump. That is not
peaceful.

00:59:37:04 00:59:38:22
No it's not but you say it is.

00:59:39:00 00:59:39:19
I did not say.

00:59:39:20 00:59:40:16
President Trump, I'd like to continue
with

00:59:40:17 00:59:41:21
the issue of race. I promise we're

00:59:41:22 00:59:43:04
gonna get to the issue of law and

00:59:43:05 00:59:44:11
order in a moment.

00:59:45:07 00:59:47:13
This month, your administration

00:59:47:20 00:59:49:25
directed federal agencies to end

00:59:50:09 00:59:52:14
racial sensitivity training

00:59:52:23 00:59:54:18
that addresses white privilege

00:59:54:19 00:59:56:09
or critical race theory.

00:59:57:01 00:59:58:24
Why did you decide to do

00:59:59:00 01:00:00:12
that? To end racial sensitivity

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training? And do you

01:00:02:12 01:00:03:24
believe that there is systemic

01:00:03:25 01:00:05:10
racism in this country, sir?

01:00:05:20 01:00:07:11
I ended it because it's racist.

01:00:07:14 01:00:09:05
I ended it because a lot of people

01:00:09:10 01:00:10:23
were complaining that they were

01:00:11:01 01:00:12:06
asked to do things that were

01:00:12:07 01:00:13:17
absolutely insane,

01:00:14:02 01:00:15:21
that it was a radical

01:00:16:08 01:00:18:03
revolution that was taking place

01:00:18:05 01:00:19:05
in our military, in

01:00:20:03 01:00:21:24
our schools all

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over the place.

01:00:22:21 01:00:24:05
And you know it. And so does

01:00:24:07 01:00:25:00
everybody else.

01:00:25:01 01:00:26:04
Right. And he would know what is

01:00:26:05 01:00:27:18
radical about racial sensitivity

01:00:28:10 01:00:28:19
training, sir?

01:00:28:20 01:00:30:06
If you are a certain person, you

01:00:31:09 01:00:32:25
had no status in life.

01:00:33:01 01:00:34:07
It was sort of a reversal.

01:00:34:14 01:00:35:21
And if you look at the people, we

01:00:35:22 01:00:37:05
were paying people hundreds of

01:00:37:06 01:00:39:01
thousands of dollars to teach

01:00:39:04 01:00:40:12
very bad ideas and frankly,

01:00:41:02 01:00:43:13
very sick ideas and, and really,

01:00:43:16 01:00:45:11
they were teaching people to hate

01:00:45:13 01:00:46:08
our country.

01:00:46:09 01:00:47:09
And I'm not going to do that.

01:00:47:10 01:00:48:09
I'm not going to allow that to

01:00:48:10 01:00:49:10
happen.

01:00:49:17 01:00:51:04
We have to go back to the core

01:00:51:11 01:00:52:20
values of this country.

01:00:53:01 01:00:54:13
They were teaching people that

01:00:54:22 01:00:56:17
our country is a horrible place,

01:00:56:18 01:00:58:03
it's a racist place, and they

01:00:58:14 01:00:59:25
were teaching people to hate our

01:00:59:26 01:01:00:21
country.

01:01:00:22 01:01:01:25
And I'm not going to allow that to

01:01:02:00 01:01:02:07
happen.

01:01:02:08 01:01:03:08
Vice President Biden.

01:01:03:15 01:01:04:15
Nobody's doing that.

01:01:04:18 01:01:06:08
He's just he's racist.

01:01:06:10 01:01:06:23
You just don't know.

01:01:06:24 01:01:07:11
Here's the deal.

01:01:07:12 01:01:08:17
I know a lot more about it.

01:01:09:07 01:01:10:07
Let him finish it.

01:01:11:00 01:01:13:06
The fact is that there is

01:01:13:12 01:01:15:09
racial insensitivity, people have to

01:01:15:10 01:01:17:06
be made aware of what

01:01:17:07 01:01:19:01
other people feel like, what

01:01:19:17 01:01:21:09
what insults sthemome, what is

01:01:21:16 01:01:22:16
demeaning to them.

01:01:22:23 01:01:24:06
It's important to people know they

01:01:24:07 01:01:25:20
don't want to, many people don't

01:01:25:22 01:01:27:03
want to hurt other people's

01:01:27:04 01:01:28:24
feelings. But it makes, it makes a

01:01:29:00 01:01:29:24
big difference.

01:01:30:00 01:01:31:08
It makes a gigantic difference in

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the way a child is able to grow up

01:01:33:06 01:01:34:14
and have a sense, a sense of

01:01:34:15 01:01:35:15
self-esteem.

01:01:35:20 01:01:37:23
It's a little bit like how this guy

01:01:37:24 01:01:39:18
and, and his friends looked down

01:01:39:19 01:01:41:09
on so many people and looked down

01:01:41:11 01:01:43:05
their nose on people like Irish

01:01:43:06 01:01:44:19
Catholics like me who grew up in

01:01:44:20 01:01:46:04
Scranton. They look down on people

01:01:46:05 01:01:47:03
who don't have money.

01:01:47:04 01:01:48:22
They look down on people who are

01:01:49:01 01:01:50:08
of a different faith.

01:01:50:10 01:01:51:20
They look down on people who are a

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different color.

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In fact, we're all Americans.

01:01:54:19 01:01:55:23
The only way we're going to bring

01:01:55:24 01:01:57:18
this country together is bring

01:01:57:19 01:01:58:12
everybody together.

01:01:58:13 01:01:59:24
There's nothing we cannot do,

01:02:00:10 01:02:02:08
if we do it together, we can

01:02:02:09 01:02:04:05
take this on and we can defeat

01:02:04:11 01:02:05:11
racism in America.

01:02:05:24 01:02:07:02
I mean, President Trump sir.

01:02:07:19 01:02:08:19
During the Obama-Biden

01:02:09:08 01:02:11:01
administration, there was tremendous

01:02:11:02 01:02:12:02
division.

01:02:12:04 01:02:13:04
There was hatred.

01:02:13:06 01:02:14:06
You look at Ferguson,

01:02:15:08 01:02:16:21
you look at you go to very many

01:02:17:12 01:02:19:02
places, look at Oakland, look what

01:02:19:03 01:02:20:05
happened in Oakland. Look what

01:02:20:06 01:02:21:04
happened in Baltimore.

01:02:21:05 01:02:22:20
Look, what happened, frankly, was

01:02:22:22 01:02:24:06
more violent than what I'm even

01:02:24:07 01:02:25:05
seeing now.

01:02:25:06 01:02:27:03
But the reason this is that

01:02:27:05 01:02:28:25
the Democrats that run these

01:02:29:00 01:02:30:15
cities, ridiculous, don't want to

01:02:30:16 01:02:32:10
talk like you about law and order,

01:02:32:11 01:02:33:15
violent crime, you still haven't

01:02:33:18 01:02:34:06
mentioned.

01:02:34:07 01:02:35:16
Are you in favor of law and order?

01:02:35:17 01:02:36:25
I'm in favor of law -.

01:02:37:08 01:02:39:09
You follow the law and order

01:02:39:10 01:02:40:09
go ask.

01:02:40:10 01:02:41:23
You asked a question a lot of law

01:02:41:24 01:02:43:18
and order. Is this law that.

01:02:43:22 01:02:45:18
Law and order with justice

01:02:45:19 01:02:47:11
where people get treated fairly.

01:02:47:20 01:02:48:22
And the fact of the matter is

01:02:48:23 01:02:50:02
violent crime is down 17

01:02:51:03 01:02:52:10
percent, 15 percent in our

01:02:53:01 01:02:53:22
administration.

01:02:53:23 01:02:54:24
All rights. It's gone up on his

01:02:54:25 01:02:55:08
watch.

01:02:55:09 01:02:56:18
Is down much more in our.

01:02:57:04 01:02:59:09
All right. When you're president,

01:02:59:10 01:03:00:10
you're going to have a man.

01:03:00:16 01:03:02:07
Mr. President, every record and the

01:03:02:08 01:03:03:08
Mr. President are gonna be very

01:03:03:09 01:03:04:19
happy. We're not going to talk about

01:03:04:20 01:03:06:05
law and. We had trouble were

01:03:06:08 01:03:08:09
Democratic-run cities.

01:03:08:10 01:03:09:10
That's exactly my question was

01:03:09:12 01:03:09:16
right.

01:03:09:17 01:03:11:04
There has been a dramatic increase

01:03:11:05 01:03:12:17
in homicides in America

01:03:13:05 01:03:14:22
this summer particularly.

01:03:14:23 01:03:16:04
And you often blame that on

01:03:16:05 01:03:18:07
Democratic mayors and Democratic

01:03:18:08 01:03:19:12
governors. But in fact, there have

01:03:19:13 01:03:21:18
been equivalent spikes

01:03:22:04 01:03:24:11
in Republican led cities like Tulsa

01:03:24:13 01:03:25:13
and Fort Worth.

01:03:25:21 01:03:27:12
So the question is, is this really a

01:03:27:13 01:03:28:13
party issue?

01:03:29:08 01:03:30:09
I think it's a party issue.

01:03:30:10 01:03:31:11
You can bring in a couple of

01:03:31:12 01:03:32:20
examples. But if you look at

01:03:32:22 01:03:34:17
Chicago, what's going on in Chicago

01:03:34:18 01:03:36:18
where 53 people

01:03:36:19 01:03:38:07
were shot and eight died.

01:03:38:08 01:03:39:06
Shot.

01:03:39:07 01:03:40:23
If you look at New York, where it's

01:03:40:24 01:03:42:15
going up like nobody's ever seen

01:03:42:16 01:03:43:22
anything, the numbers are going up.

01:03:43:23 01:03:45:06
One hundred hundred and fifty two

01:03:45:07 01:03:46:23
hundred percent crime.

01:03:47:07 01:03:48:02
It's the way it is.

01:03:48:03 01:03:49:12
It's crazy what's going on.

01:03:49:19 01:03:51:02
And he doesn't want to say law and

01:03:51:03 01:03:52:18
order because he can't because he'll

01:03:52:19 01:03:54:13
lose his radical left supporters.

01:03:54:19 01:03:56:03
And once he does that, it's over

01:03:56:04 01:03:58:02
with. But if he ever got to run

01:03:58:03 01:03:59:23
this country and they ran it the

01:03:59:24 01:04:01:08
way he would want to run it, we

01:04:01:09 01:04:03:02
would have. We want suburbs

01:04:03:10 01:04:04:12
gone, by the way.

01:04:04:16 01:04:06:05
Our suburbs would be gone.

01:04:06:15 01:04:08:01
And you would see problems like you

01:04:08:04 01:04:10:01
would known a suburb unless he took

01:04:10:02 01:04:10:24
a wrong turn.

01:04:11:00 01:04:12:02
I know somebody would not.

01:04:12:03 01:04:13:02
Oh, my God.

01:04:13:03 01:04:13:22
Go ahead. Wait.

01:04:13:23 01:04:15:11
I was raised in the suburbs.

01:04:15:16 01:04:17:04
This is not 1950.

01:04:17:11 01:04:19:01
All these dog whistles and racism

01:04:19:02 01:04:20:01
don't work anymore.

01:04:20:04 01:04:21:11
Suburbs are, by and large,

01:04:21:15 01:04:22:09
integrated.

01:04:22:10 01:04:23:25
There's many people today driving

01:04:23:26 01:04:25:18
their kids to soccer practice and or

01:04:25:19 01:04:26:21
to, black and white and

01:04:27:15 01:04:29:08
Hispanic in the same car

01:04:29:13 01:04:31:03
as there have been any time in the

01:04:31:04 01:04:33:05
past. What's what really is a threat

01:04:33:10 01:04:35:03
to the suburbs, and their safety is

01:04:35:11 01:04:36:11
his failure to deal with COVID.

01:04:36:22 01:04:38:04
They're dying in the suburbs.

01:04:38:09 01:04:39:15
His failure to deal with the

01:04:39:16 01:04:40:11
environment.

01:04:40:12 01:04:41:11
They're being flooded.

01:04:41:14 01:04:43:03
They're being burned out because

01:04:43:10 01:04:44:16
he's refusing to do any.

01:04:44:23 01:04:46:08
That's why the suburbs are in

01:04:46:12 01:04:46:18
trouble.

01:04:46:19 01:04:47:25
I do want to talk about this issue

01:04:47:26 01:04:48:25
of law and order, though.

01:04:49:00 01:04:51:03
And in the joint recommendation

01:04:51:10 01:04:52:25
that came from the Biden-Bernie

01:04:53:14 01:04:54:16
Sanders taskforce,

01:04:55:15 01:04:57:01
you talked about, quote,

01:04:57:07 01:04:59:02
"reimagining policing".

01:05:00:07 01:05:02:00
First of all, what does reimagining

01:05:02:01 01:05:03:00
policing mean?

01:05:03:01 01:05:04:22
And do you support it means

01:05:05:08 01:05:06:09
let me if I might finish the

01:05:06:10 01:05:07:22
question. What is reimagining

01:05:07:23 01:05:08:19
policing mean?

01:05:08:20 01:05:10:11
And do you support the Black Lives

01:05:10:20 01:05:11:20
Matter

01:05:13:11 01:05:14:17
call for

01:05:15:14 01:05:17:17
for community control of policing.

01:05:18:03 01:05:20:04
Look, what I support is

01:05:20:06 01:05:21:21
the police having the opportunity

01:05:22:10 01:05:24:07
to deal with the problems they face.

01:05:24:20 01:05:26:14
And I'm totally opposed to defunding

01:05:27:01 01:05:28:01
the police officers.

01:05:28:06 01:05:29:20
It's a matter of fact, police, local

01:05:29:21 01:05:31:17
police, the only one defunding in

01:05:31:18 01:05:33:10
his budget, calls for a 400 million

01:05:33:13 01:05:35:05
dollar cut in local law enforcement

01:05:35:06 01:05:36:01
assistance.

01:05:36:02 01:05:37:10
They need more assistance.

01:05:37:17 01:05:39:04
They need when they show up for a

01:05:39:05 01:05:40:24
911 call to have someone with them

01:05:40:25 01:05:42:23
as a psychologist or psychiatrist

01:05:43:04 01:05:44:20
to keep them from having to use

01:05:44:21 01:05:46:15
force and be able to talk people

01:05:46:16 01:05:48:13
down. We have to have community

01:05:48:14 01:05:50:05
policing like we had before, where

01:05:50:08 01:05:52:02
the officers get to know the people

01:05:52:07 01:05:53:06
in the communities.

01:05:53:07 01:05:55:04
That's when crime went down.

01:05:55:11 01:05:56:08
It didn't go up.

01:05:56:09 01:05:57:09
It went down.

01:05:57:12 01:05:58:15
And so we have to be.

01:05:58:16 01:05:59:16
That's not where they've talking

01:05:59:21 01:06:01:17
about. That is that's now what they

01:06:01:18 01:06:03:04
still got defunding that police.

01:06:03:11 01:06:04:14
That is not true.

01:06:04:15 01:06:06:11
He doesn't have any law support

01:06:06:14 01:06:08:01
you. He has no law enforcement

01:06:08:08 01:06:09:13
support. That's not true.

01:06:09:14 01:06:10:13
Almost nothing.

01:06:11:06 01:06:12:06
Oh, really? Who do you have?

01:06:12:07 01:06:13:24
Name one group that supports you.

01:06:14:00 01:06:15:07
Name one group that came out and

01:06:15:08 01:06:16:08
supported you.

01:06:16:09 01:06:18:06
Go ahead, think, we have time.

01:06:18:08 01:06:19:17
We don't have time to do it now.

01:06:20:02 01:06:21:02
All right.

01:06:21:12 01:06:23:05
All right. One law enforcement

01:06:23:06 01:06:25:07
group, that element

01:06:25:08 01:06:26:05
I think I'm going into. I'm going to

01:06:26:06 01:06:28:01
take back. I'm not gonna run.

01:06:28:08 01:06:29:20
And I want to get to another

01:06:29:21 01:06:31:10
subject, which is the issue of

01:06:31:11 01:06:33:04
protests in many cities

01:06:33:16 01:06:34:15
that have turned violent.

01:06:34:16 01:06:36:12
In Portland, Oregon, especially,

01:06:36:13 01:06:38:02
we had a more than 100

01:06:38:09 01:06:40:10
straight days of protests,

01:06:40:19 01:06:41:20
which I think you would agree, you

01:06:41:21 01:06:42:22
talk about peaceful protests.

01:06:43:03 01:06:45:01
Many of those turned into riots.

01:06:45:10 01:06:46:10
Mr. Vice President,

01:06:47:10 01:06:49:10
you say that people who commit

01:06:49:11 01:06:51:06
crimes should be held

01:06:51:08 01:06:52:06
accountable.

01:06:52:07 01:06:53:17
The question I have, though, is as

01:06:53:18 01:06:55:07
the Democratic nominee and earlier

01:06:55:08 01:06:56:20
tonight, you said that you are the

01:06:56:21 01:06:58:10
Democratic Party right now.

01:06:58:22 01:07:00:15
Have you ever called the Democratic

01:07:00:16 01:07:02:11
mayor of Portland or the Democratic

01:07:02:12 01:07:04:07
governor of Oregon and said,

01:07:04:21 01:07:06:09
hey, you've got to stop this.

01:07:06:16 01:07:08:04
Bring in the National Guard, do

01:07:08:09 01:07:09:07
whatever it takes.

01:07:09:08 01:07:10:02
But you'd stop.

01:07:10:03 01:07:12:12
But days and months of violence

01:07:12:23 01:07:13:23
in Portland.

01:07:14:01 01:07:15:15
I don't hold public office now.

01:07:16:04 01:07:18:11
I am a former vice president.

01:07:18:13 01:07:19:16
I've made it clear.

01:07:19:23 01:07:21:06
I've made it clear in my public

01:07:21:07 01:07:23:02
statements that the violence should

01:07:23:03 01:07:24:03
be prosecuted.

01:07:24:08 01:07:25:17
It should be prosecuted in anyone

01:07:25:18 01:07:26:08
who commits it.

01:07:26:09 01:07:27:08
But you've never called for the

01:07:27:09 01:07:28:03
people.

01:07:28:04 01:07:29:16
That's the leader. Excuse me, sir.

01:07:30:00 01:07:32:02
You had never called for the leaders

01:07:32:03 01:07:33:08
in Portland and

01:07:34:01 01:07:35:24
in Oregon to call as running

01:07:36:01 01:07:37:18
the National Guard and knock off

01:07:37:24 01:07:39:03
100 days of riots.

01:07:39:04 01:07:41:02
They can, in fact, take care

01:07:41:03 01:07:42:10
of it if you just stay out of the

01:07:42:11 01:07:43:09
way. OK.

01:07:43:10 01:07:44:04
Oh, really? Here.

01:07:44:05 01:07:46:03
Oh, really? There's no

01:07:46:08 01:07:48:05
way to get the killer

01:07:48:06 01:07:49:15
of a young man in the middle of the

01:07:49:16 01:07:51:14
street and they shot him three

01:07:51:15 01:07:53:06
as a resident, Portland wouldn't

01:07:53:15 01:07:55:14
do anything and have the U.S.

01:07:55:15 01:07:57:00
Marshals. He took care of business.

01:07:57:11 01:07:57:21
Go ahead, sir.

01:07:57:22 01:07:59:11
And by the way, you know, his own

01:07:59:18 01:08:01:13
former spokesperson said, you

01:08:01:15 01:08:03:18
know, riots and chaos

01:08:03:19 01:08:05:08
and violence helped his cause.

01:08:05:21 01:08:06:21
That's what this is all about.

01:08:07:01 01:08:07:21
I don't know who said that.

01:08:07:22 01:08:08:20
I do.

01:08:08:21 01:08:09:17
Who?

01:08:09:18 01:08:11:18
I think Kellyanne Conway.

01:08:11:20 01:08:12:14
I don't think she said that.

01:08:12:15 01:08:13:14
She she said that.

01:08:13:15 01:08:14:14
And so here's the thing.

01:08:14:15 01:08:15:18
But here's the point is

01:08:16:13 01:08:18:02
that that's what he is, jeeps

01:08:18:13 01:08:19:23
trying to rile everything up.

01:08:20:12 01:08:22:06
He doesn't want to calm things down

01:08:22:16 01:08:24:12
instead of going in and talking

01:08:24:13 01:08:25:20
to people and saying, let's get

01:08:25:21 01:08:27:08
everybody together, figure out how

01:08:27:09 01:08:28:08
to deal with this.

01:08:28:11 01:08:29:09
What's he do?

01:08:29:10 01:08:31:05
He just pours gasoline in the fire

01:08:31:13 01:08:33:07
constantly and every single solitary

01:08:33:08 01:08:33:17
time.

01:08:33:18 01:08:35:10
OK. And to end this,

01:08:35:13 01:08:36:11
button up this segment.

01:08:36:12 01:08:37:06
I'm going to give you a minute to

01:08:37:07 01:08:38:07
answer, sir.

01:08:38:11 01:08:39:24
You have repeatedly criticized.

01:08:40:04 01:08:41:04
The answer. Has not.

01:08:41:13 01:08:43:13
You have stated lately, you know,

01:08:43:14 01:08:44:17
you've been talking. You made a

01:08:44:18 01:08:46:00
statement. I'm asking you.

01:08:46:01 01:08:47:06
I would love to know you are.

01:08:47:17 01:08:49:04
I'd love to know if you want to

01:08:49:08 01:08:50:08
switch seats.

01:08:50:13 01:08:51:19
We could very quickly he can do

01:08:51:20 01:08:52:01
that.

01:08:52:02 01:08:53:14
We'd send in the national data would

01:08:53:15 01:08:54:16
be over. There'd be no problem.

01:08:55:03 01:08:56:05
But they don't want to accept the

01:08:56:06 01:08:56:25
National Guard.

01:08:57:00 01:08:58:24
You have repeatedly criticized

01:08:59:00 01:09:00:06
the the vice presideextermot

01:09:00:22 01:09:02:09
specifically calling out Antifa

01:09:03:11 01:09:04:15
and other left wing extremist

01:09:04:23 01:09:05:18
groups.

01:09:05:19 01:09:07:09
But are you willing tonight

01:09:07:16 01:09:09:13
to condemn white supremacists

01:09:09:16 01:09:11:11
and militia groups and

01:09:11:18 01:09:12:18
to say that they need

01:09:13:15 01:09:15:18
to stand down and not add

01:09:15:19 01:09:17:02
to the violence and a number of

01:09:17:03 01:09:18:16
these cities, as we saw in Kenosha,

01:09:18:17 01:09:20:17
and as we've seen in Portland.

01:09:20:20 01:09:22:16
Sure I'm willing do

01:09:22:17 01:09:23:02
it.

01:09:23:03 01:09:23:20
Go ahead sir.

01:09:23:21 01:09:25:08
I would say almost everything I

01:09:25:16 01:09:27:03
see is from the left wing, not

01:09:27:14 01:09:28:03
from the right wing.

01:09:28:04 01:09:29:09
So what do you what do you what are

01:09:29:10 01:09:30:23
you saying? I'm willing to do

01:09:30:24 01:09:32:12
anything I want to see peace and do

01:09:32:13 01:09:33:09
it, sir. I.

01:09:33:10 01:09:34:09
Do it, say it.

01:09:35:03 01:09:36:03
You want to call them?

01:09:36:08 01:09:37:05
What do you want to call them? Give

01:09:37:06 01:09:37:16
me a name.

01:09:37:17 01:09:38:16
Give me white supremacists.

01:09:38:20 01:09:39:20
And would you like me to condemn

01:09:39:23 01:09:40:21
about process?

01:09:40:22 01:09:41:21
I'm right. Proud Booys.

01:09:42:11 01:09:44:09
Stand back and stand by.

01:09:44:13 01:09:45:13
But I'll tell you what.

01:09:45:18 01:09:47:09
I'll tell you what somebody has got

01:09:47:10 01:09:48:23
to do something about antifa and

01:09:49:05 01:09:50:14
the left, because this is not a

01:09:50:15 01:09:51:14
right wing problem.

01:09:51:18 01:09:52:18
Is this is a left.

01:09:52:21 01:09:54:20
I direct this as a left

01:09:54:21 01:09:56:18
wing guy like white supremacists.

01:09:56:24 01:09:58:16
Antifa is an idea, not an

01:09:58:17 01:09:59:16
organization. You've got to be

01:09:59:17 01:10:00:13
kidding not English.

01:10:00:14 01:10:02:09
That's what is tonight, FBI.

01:10:02:20 01:10:04:17
His FBI director might say.

01:10:04:19 01:10:05:24
Well, that I know. I know how that

01:10:05:25 01:10:06:22
worked. Done, sir.

01:10:06:23 01:10:08:07
We're moving on to the next flight,

01:10:08:24 01:10:10:15
ICRA that has there is not an idea

01:10:11:01 01:10:11:17
of Antifa is bad.

01:10:11:18 01:10:12:20
Everyone in your administration

01:10:12:21 01:10:14:04
tells you the truth is a bad is, has

01:10:14:05 01:10:14:23
a bad idea.

01:10:14:24 01:10:16:15
And I tell you what, I have no idea.

01:10:17:10 01:10:19:08
Antifia is a dangerous.

01:10:19:09 01:10:20:10
Aand bIdenll right, gentlemen, we're

01:10:20:11 01:10:22:13
now moving on to the Trump records.

01:10:22:14 01:10:23:13
And Phil, overthrow you.

01:10:23:14 01:10:24:13
Mr. President.

01:10:24:14 01:10:26:04
I'm going to ask a question when

01:10:26:09 01:10:28:03
the president seeks a second term,

01:10:28:23 01:10:30:10
it is generally a referendum on

01:10:30:20 01:10:31:20
his record.

01:10:31:23 01:10:33:08
But Vice President Biden, you like

01:10:33:09 01:10:35:01
to quote one of your dad's sayings,

01:10:35:12 01:10:37:01
which is, don't compare me to the

01:10:37:02 01:10:38:05
almighty, compare me to

01:10:39:00 01:10:39:24
the alternative.

01:10:40:00 01:10:41:15
And in this case, are you are the

01:10:41:21 01:10:43:13
alternative, looking

01:10:44:07 01:10:45:10
at both of your records.

01:10:45:11 01:10:47:13
I'm going to ask each of you, why

01:10:47:14 01:10:49:17
should voters elect you president

01:10:50:01 01:10:51:24
over your opponent in this segment,

01:10:52:08 01:10:53:16
President Trump, you go first two

01:10:53:17 01:10:54:14
minutes.

01:10:54:15 01:10:56:18
Because there has never been

01:10:57:01 01:10:58:22
an administration or a president

01:10:58:23 01:11:01:01
who has done more than I've done

01:11:01:12 01:11:02:16
in a period of three and a half

01:11:02:17 01:11:04:08
years. And that's despite the

01:11:04:09 01:11:05:13
impeachment hoax.

01:11:05:23 01:11:07:11
And you saw what happened today with

01:11:07:12 01:11:08:18
Hillary Clinton, where it was a

01:11:08:19 01:11:10:02
whole big con job.

01:11:10:11 01:11:11:21
But despite going through all of

01:11:11:22 01:11:13:22
these things, we had a fight both

01:11:13:23 01:11:15:12
flanks and behind me, you know, and

01:11:15:13 01:11:16:24
above. There has never been an

01:11:17:05 01:11:18:18
administration that's done what

01:11:19:02 01:11:19:22
I've done.

01:11:19:23 01:11:21:12
The greatest before covid came in

01:11:21:13 01:11:22:25
the greatest economy in history,

01:11:22:26 01:11:24:09
lowest employee unemployment

01:11:24:11 01:11:25:24
numbers. Everything was good.

01:11:26:01 01:11:26:23
Everything was going.

01:11:26:24 01:11:28:11
And by the way, there was unity

01:11:28:22 01:11:29:20
going to happen.

01:11:29:21 01:11:31:10
People were calling me for the first

01:11:31:11 01:11:32:06
time in years.

01:11:32:07 01:11:33:17
They were calling and they were

01:11:33:18 01:11:35:03
saying, it's time, maybe.

01:11:35:04 01:11:36:00
And then what happened?

01:11:36:01 01:11:37:07
We got hit, but now we're building

01:11:37:08 01:11:38:07
it back up again.

01:11:38:08 01:11:39:25
A rebuilding of the military,

01:11:40:00 01:11:41:21
including Space orce and all of the

01:11:41:22 01:11:43:20
other things, a fixing

01:11:43:22 01:11:45:14
of the V.A.,

01:11:45:20 01:11:47:13
which was a mess under him.

01:11:47:18 01:11:49:04
Three hundred eight thousand people

01:11:49:05 01:11:50:15
died because they didn't have proper

01:11:50:16 01:11:52:07
health care. It was a mess.

01:11:52:14 01:11:53:22
And we now got a 91 percent

01:11:54:11 01:11:56:05
approval rating at the V.A.

01:11:56:06 01:11:57:20
Our vets, we take care of our vets,

01:11:58:02 01:11:59:18
but we've rebuilt our military.

01:11:59:25 01:12:01:17
The job that we've done and I'll

01:12:01:18 01:12:03:05
take some some people say maybe the

01:12:03:06 01:12:04:20
most important by the end of the

01:12:04:22 01:12:07:06
first term, I'll have approximately

01:12:07:09 01:12:09:14
300 federal judges

01:12:09:15 01:12:11:07
and court of appeals judges, 300

01:12:11:21 01:12:13:19
and hopefully three great

01:12:13:22 01:12:15:23
Supreme Court judges, justices.

01:12:16:03 01:12:18:04
That is a record

01:12:18:12 01:12:20:08
the likes of which very few people.

01:12:20:09 01:12:21:11
And, you know, one of the reasons I

01:12:21:12 01:12:22:21
have so many judges, because

01:12:23:10 01:12:25:01
President Obama and him left me a

01:12:25:07 01:12:26:11
hundred and twenty eight

01:12:27:12 01:12:28:16
judges to fill.

01:12:29:01 01:12:30:11
When you leave office, you don't

01:12:30:12 01:12:31:15
leave any judges.

01:12:31:16 01:12:33:02
That's like you just don't do that.

01:12:33:09 01:12:35:01
They left a hundred and twenty eight

01:12:35:03 01:12:36:02
openings.

01:12:36:03 01:12:37:25
And if I were a member of his party,

01:12:38:10 01:12:39:19
because they have a little different

01:12:39:20 01:12:41:24
philosophy, I'd say if you left

01:12:42:23 01:12:45:03
us 128 openings,

01:12:45:09 01:12:46:23
you can't be a good president.

01:12:47:03 01:12:48:20
You can't be a good vice president.

01:12:49:02 01:12:50:12
But I want to thank you because it

01:12:50:13 01:12:52:12
gives us almost it'll probably

01:12:52:13 01:12:54:03
be above that number by the end of

01:12:54:04 01:12:55:03
this term. I'm sorry.

01:12:55:04 01:12:56:17
Three hundred judges.

01:12:56:18 01:12:57:18
It's a record.

01:12:58:02 01:12:59:18
Looking at both your records, why

01:13:00:04 01:13:02:10
should voters elect you president

01:13:02:20 01:13:03:21
as opposed to president Trump you

01:13:03:22 01:13:05:11
have two minutes uninterrupted.

01:13:05:21 01:13:07:05
Under this president, we become

01:13:07:06 01:13:08:23
weaker, sicker,

01:13:09:13 01:13:11:13
poorer, more divided

01:13:11:24 01:13:12:24
and more violent.

01:13:13:16 01:13:15:16
When I was vice president,

01:13:16:04 01:13:17:12
we inherited a recession.

01:13:17:23 01:13:18:24
I was asked to fix it.

01:13:19:03 01:13:20:24
I did. We left to move a booming

01:13:21:00 01:13:21:24
economy.

01:13:22:00 01:13:23:10
And he caused a recession.

01:13:23:23 01:13:25:12
With regard to being weaker,

01:13:26:02 01:13:27:14
the fact is that I've gone head

01:13:28:01 01:13:29:20
to head with Putin and made it clear

01:13:29:24 01:13:31:04
to him we're not going to take any

01:13:31:05 01:13:31:25
of his stuff.

01:13:32:00 01:13:33:00
He's Putin's puppy.

01:13:33:01 01:13:34:22
He still refuses to even say

01:13:34:23 01:13:36:14
anything to Putin about the bounty

01:13:36:18 01:13:38:07
on the heads of American soldiers.

01:13:38:10 01:13:39:18
Your son got. No no no who three

01:13:39:19 01:13:40:19
million dollars.

01:13:40:24 01:13:42:10
And by the way, Mr. President, my

01:13:42:11 01:13:43:06
son.

01:13:43:07 01:13:45:04
Mr. President, your campaign

01:13:45:07 01:13:47:11
agreed to both sides

01:13:47:12 01:13:49:15
would get two minute answers

01:13:49:17 01:13:51:04
uninterrupted. Well, your side

01:13:51:09 01:13:52:09
agreed to it.

01:13:52:12 01:13:53:23
And why don't you observe what

01:13:54:10 01:13:55:20
your campaign agreed to as a ground

01:13:55:21 01:13:56:17
rule? Okay, sir?

01:13:56:18 01:13:58:11
He never keeps his word that I don't

01:13:58:15 01:13:59:17
know. I'm not at your side.

01:13:59:20 01:14:01:06
That was a rhetorical question.

01:14:01:09 01:14:02:20
And, you know, I had 30 seconds.

01:14:02:21 01:14:03:23
Yeah. Yeah. So I have.

01:14:03:24 01:14:04:24
All right. Go ahead.

01:14:05:03 01:14:06:18
So, thirdly,

01:14:07:03 01:14:08:03
we're poor.

01:14:08:08 01:14:09:16
The billionaires who got much,

01:14:10:03 01:14:12:06
much more wealthy by the tune

01:14:12:07 01:14:13:17
of over four, three to four hundred

01:14:13:18 01:14:15:05
billion dollars more just since

01:14:15:14 01:14:17:16
covid you in the home,

01:14:17:18 01:14:18:23
you got less.

01:14:19:03 01:14:20:13
You're in more trouble than you were

01:14:20:14 01:14:21:14
before.

01:14:21:17 01:14:23:23
In terms of being more violent.

01:14:24:10 01:14:25:21
When we were in office were 15

01:14:26:00 01:14:28:02
percent less violence in America

01:14:28:03 01:14:29:03
than there is today.

01:14:29:11 01:14:30:24
He's president of the United States.

01:14:31:09 01:14:32:17
It's on his watch.

01:14:32:25 01:14:35:02
And with regard to more divided,

01:14:35:08 01:14:36:20
the nation can't stay divided.

01:14:36:22 01:14:37:24
We can't be this way.

01:14:38:10 01:14:40:03
And speaking of my son, the way you

01:14:40:09 01:14:42:05
talk about the military, the way

01:14:42:06 01:14:44:02
you talk about there'd be losers

01:14:44:03 01:14:46:04
and being and

01:14:46:05 01:14:47:05
just being suckers.

01:14:47:15 01:14:49:15
My son was in

01:14:49:16 01:14:51:16
Iraq. He spent a year there.

01:14:52:07 01:14:54:15
He got, he got the Bronze Star.

01:14:54:20 01:14:56:01
He got the conspicuous service

01:14:56:02 01:14:58:03
medal. He was not a loser.

01:14:58:11 01:14:59:24
He was a patriot.

01:15:00:04 01:15:01:04
And the people left behind there

01:15:02:04 01:15:03:06
were heroes, really.

01:15:03:07 01:15:04:07
And I resent...

01:15:04:11 01:15:05:08
Are you talking about Hunter? Are you

01:15:05:09 01:15:05:19
talking about Hunter?

01:15:05:20 01:15:07:02
I'm talking about my son, Beau

01:15:07:03 01:15:07:22
Biden. You're talking about...

01:15:07:23 01:15:08:24
I don't know. I don't know, Beau.

01:15:09:00 01:15:09:24
I know Hunter. Hunter

01:15:11:02 01:15:12:13
got thrown out of the military.

01:15:12:21 01:15:14:09
He was thrown out, dishonorably

01:15:14:15 01:15:15:05
discharged.

01:15:15:06 01:15:16:07
That's not true. He wasn't
dishonorably discharged.

01:15:16:08 01:15:16:23
For cocaine use.

01:15:17:18 01:15:19:05
And he didn't have a job until you

01:15:19:06 01:15:20:10
became vice president. Once you
became Vice President...

01:15:20:11 01:15:20:23
None of that is true.

01:15:22:03 01:15:23:23
He made a fortune in Ukraine,

01:15:23:24 01:15:25:02
in China, in Moscow...

01:15:25:03 01:15:25:15
That is simply not true.

01:15:26:20 01:15:27:20
And various other places.

01:15:28:03 01:15:29:03
Not true. My son...

01:15:29:11 01:15:30:02
my son.

01:15:30:03 01:15:31:02
And he didn't have a job.

01:15:31:17 01:15:33:06
My son like a lot of people, like a

01:15:33:07 01:15:34:13
lot of people, you know, at home,

01:15:34:20 01:15:36:03
had a drug problem.

01:15:36:08 01:15:37:09
He's overtaken it.

01:15:37:10 01:15:39:01
He's, he's, he's fixed it.

01:15:39:04 01:15:40:04
He's worked on it.

01:15:40:08 01:15:41:04
And I'm proud of him.

01:15:41:05 01:15:42:05
But why was he given tens of

01:15:42:12 01:15:42:24
millions of dollars...

01:15:43:00 01:15:43:04
All right.

01:15:43:05 01:15:44:15
He wasn't given tens of millions,

01:15:45:04 01:15:46:04
that is totally.

01:15:46:14 01:15:47:14
Totally discredited.

01:15:47:25 01:15:49:19
You've already, already been totally

01:15:49:20 01:15:50:00
discredited.

01:15:51:15 01:15:52:15
We've already been through this.

01:15:52:16 01:15:53:23
I think the American people would

01:15:53:24 01:15:55:05
rather hear about more substantial

01:15:55:19 01:15:56:16
subjects.

01:15:56:17 01:15:58:07
Well, you know, as the moderator,

01:15:58:12 01:15:59:13
sir, I'm going to make it, you know,

01:15:59:15 01:16:00:15
a judgement call here.

01:16:00:16 01:16:01:15
Three and a half million dollars

01:16:01:16 01:16:02:03
from the Mayor of Moscow.

01:16:02:04 01:16:02:12
That is not true.

01:16:02:13 01:16:02:17
Gentlemen.

01:16:02:18 01:16:04:05
That report is totally discredited.
Mitt Romney on that committee said it

01:16:11:10 01:16:12:15
wasn't worth taxpayer money. That
report was written for a

01:16:12:16 01:16:13:02
political reason.

01:16:13:03 01:16:14:16
You know, I'd like to talk about

01:16:14:21 01:16:15:17
climate change.

01:16:15:18 01:16:16:17
So would I.

01:16:16:18 01:16:17:18
Okay.

01:16:17:19 01:16:19:07
The forest fires in the West are

01:16:19:08 01:16:20:03
raging now.

01:16:20:04 01:16:22:05
They have burned millions of acres.

01:16:22:12 01:16:24:03
They have displaced

01:16:24:08 01:16:26:08
hundreds of thousands of people.

01:16:26:20 01:16:28:10
When state officials there blamed

01:16:28:11 01:16:29:24
the fires on climate change, Mr.

01:16:30:01 01:16:31:19
President, you said, I don't think

01:16:32:03 01:16:33:12
the science knows.

01:16:33:14 01:16:35:13
Over your four years you

01:16:35:14 01:16:36:14
have pulled the U.S.

01:16:36:17 01:16:38:14
out of the Paris climate accord.

01:16:38:23 01:16:40:12
You have rolled back a number of

01:16:40:13 01:16:42:18
Obama environmental records.

01:16:43:06 01:16:45:03
What do you believe about

01:16:45:04 01:16:47:00
the science of climate change?

01:16:47:09 01:16:48:17
And what will you do in the

01:16:49:06 01:16:50:20
next four years to confront it?

01:16:51:06 01:16:53:11
I want crystal clean water

01:16:53:13 01:16:55:12
and air. I want beautiful clean

01:16:55:13 01:16:57:07
air. We have now the lowest carbon.

01:16:57:12 01:16:59:01
If you look at our numbers right

01:16:59:05 01:17:01:05
now, we are doing

01:17:01:06 01:17:02:05
phenomenally.

01:17:02:08 01:17:03:12
But I haven't destroyed our

01:17:03:13 01:17:04:06
businesses.

01:17:04:07 01:17:05:21
Our businesses aren't put out of

01:17:06:07 01:17:07:05
commission.

01:17:07:06 01:17:09:03
If you look at the Paris Accord, it

01:17:09:04 01:17:11:02
was a disaster from our standpoint.

01:17:11:04 01:17:12:24
And people are actually very

01:17:12:25 01:17:14:19
happy about what's going on because

01:17:14:20 01:17:16:10
our businesses are doing well as far

01:17:16:11 01:17:17:12
as the fires are concerned.

01:17:17:20 01:17:19:03
You need forest management.

01:17:19:04 01:17:20:21
In addition to everything else, the

01:17:21:01 01:17:22:15
forest floors are loaded up with

01:17:23:02 01:17:24:16
trees, dead trees that are years

01:17:25:02 01:17:26:24
old and they're like tinder and

01:17:27:02 01:17:28:07
leaves and everything else.

01:17:28:13 01:17:29:20
You drop a cigarette in there, the

01:17:29:21 01:17:31:11
whole forest burns down, you've got

01:17:31:12 01:17:32:13
to have forest management.

01:17:32:14 01:17:33:14
What do you believe...

01:17:33:15 01:17:34:14
What do you believe about the

01:17:34:15 01:17:36:14
science of climate change, sir?

01:17:37:06 01:17:38:22
I believe that we have to do

01:17:38:23 01:17:41:02
everything we can to have immaculate

01:17:41:03 01:17:42:12
air, immaculate water and do

01:17:42:19 01:17:43:19
whatever else we can.

01:17:43:20 01:17:45:01
That's good. You know, we're planting

01:17:45:02 01:17:46:06
a billion trees.

01:17:46:07 01:17:47:15
The billion tree project.

01:17:47:22 01:17:49:06
And it's very exciting to a lot of

01:17:49:07 01:17:49:19
people.

01:17:49:20 01:17:52:00
You believe that human pollution,

01:17:52:06 01:17:53:16
gas, greenhouse gas emissions

01:17:53:25 01:17:55:10
contributes to the global warming of

01:17:55:11 01:17:55:20
the planet.

01:17:55:21 01:17:56:20
I think a lot of things do.

01:17:56:21 01:17:58:06
But I think to an extent, yes.

01:17:58:07 01:17:59:08
I think to an extent, yes.

01:17:59:10 01:18:00:21
But I also think we have to do

01:18:01:06 01:18:02:21
better management of our forests.

01:18:03:04 01:18:04:09
Every year.

01:18:04:18 01:18:05:18
I get the call.

01:18:05:21 01:18:07:01
California is burning.

01:18:07:05 01:18:08:08
California is burning.

01:18:08:19 01:18:10:03
If that was cleaned.

01:18:10:06 01:18:12:06
If that were, if you had forest

01:18:12:07 01:18:13:06
management. Good.

01:18:13:07 01:18:15:02
Forest management, you wouldn't be

01:18:15:03 01:18:16:15
getting those calls, you know, in

01:18:16:16 01:18:18:01
Europe, they live their forest

01:18:18:02 01:18:19:14
cities, they call forest cities,

01:18:19:21 01:18:21:10
they maintain their forest, they

01:18:21:11 01:18:22:11
manage their fires.

01:18:23:05 01:18:24:17
I was with the head of a major

01:18:24:25 01:18:25:21
country.

01:18:25:22 01:18:27:02
It's a forest city.

01:18:27:11 01:18:29:20
He said, sir, we have trees

01:18:29:21 01:18:31:07
that are far more, they, they

01:18:31:08 01:18:33:16
ignite, much easier than California.

01:18:33:23 01:18:35:10
There shouldn't be that problem.

01:18:35:11 01:18:36:12
I spoke with the governor about it,

01:18:36:18 01:18:37:22
I'm getting along very well with the

01:18:37:23 01:18:39:04
governor, but he said, you know, at

01:18:39:05 01:18:41:05
some point you can't every

01:18:41:06 01:18:43:11
year have hundreds of thousands

01:18:43:12 01:18:44:20
of acres of land just burned

01:18:45:08 01:18:46:05
to the ground.

01:18:46:06 01:18:47:16
That's burning down because of a

01:18:47:17 01:18:48:16
lack of management.

01:18:48:17 01:18:49:15
But sir if you believe in the

01:18:49:16 01:18:50:22
science of climate change, why

01:18:51:23 01:18:53:17
have you rolled back the Obama

01:18:54:05 01:18:56:04
Clean Power Plan, which limited

01:18:56:05 01:18:58:05
carbon emissions and power plants?

01:18:58:06 01:18:59:09
Why have you relaxed...

01:18:59:11 01:19:01:03
Because it was driving energy prices

01:19:01:04 01:19:02:03
through the sky.

01:19:02:04 01:19:03:21
Why have you relaxed fuel economy

01:19:03:23 01:19:05:03
standards that are going

01:19:05:19 01:19:07:11
to create more pollution from cars

01:19:07:14 01:19:07:23
and trucks?

01:19:07:24 01:19:09:17
Not really, because what's happening

01:19:09:18 01:19:11:17
is the car is much less expensive

01:19:11:18 01:19:13:04
and it's a much safer car.

01:19:13:12 01:19:14:22
And you're talking about a tiny

01:19:14:23 01:19:15:24
difference. And then what would

01:19:16:00 01:19:17:11
happen because of the cost of the

01:19:17:12 01:19:19:12
car, you would have at least

01:19:19:19 01:19:21:13
double and triple the number of cars

01:19:21:18 01:19:23:14
purchased. We have the old slugs

01:19:23:15 01:19:25:05
out there that are 10, 12 years old.

01:19:25:14 01:19:27:01
If you did that, the car would be

01:19:27:02 01:19:28:22
safer. It would be much cheaper

01:19:28:23 01:19:29:22
by 3500 dollars.

01:19:30:22 01:19:31:22
In California they've simply
ignored... .

01:19:32:01 01:19:32:23
No but you would take a lot of cars
off

01:19:32:24 01:19:34:11
the market because people would be

01:19:34:12 01:19:35:15
able to afford a car.

01:19:36:02 01:19:36:21
Now.

01:19:36:22 01:19:38:05
So. And by the way, we're going to

01:19:38:06 01:19:39:08
see how that turns out.

01:19:39:10 01:19:40:16
But a lot of people agree with me.

01:19:40:17 01:19:42:14
Many people, the car has gotten

01:19:42:15 01:19:44:04
so expensive because they have

01:19:44:05 01:19:45:18
computers all over the place for

01:19:46:02 01:19:48:00
an extra little bit of

01:19:48:01 01:19:48:18
gasoline.

01:19:48:19 01:19:49:14
That's not.

01:19:49:15 01:19:51:08
And I'm okay with electric cars,

01:19:51:09 01:19:52:20
too. I think I'm all for electric

01:19:52:21 01:19:54:07
cars. I've given big incentives for

01:19:54:08 01:19:55:08
electric cars.

01:19:55:10 01:19:56:23
But what they've done in California

01:19:56:24 01:19:57:24
is just crazy.

01:19:58:20 01:20:00:03
Vice President Biden, I'd like you

01:20:00:04 01:20:01:17
to to respond to the president's

01:20:02:10 01:20:04:07
climate change record, but I also

01:20:04:08 01:20:06:10
want to ask you about the concern

01:20:06:11 01:20:08:06
you proposed two trillion dollars

01:20:08:07 01:20:09:19
in green jobs.

01:20:09:20 01:20:11:08
You talk about no limits.

01:20:11:09 01:20:12:24
Not abolishing, but new limits on

01:20:13:02 01:20:14:02
fracking.

01:20:14:05 01:20:15:23
Ending the use of fossil fuels to

01:20:15:24 01:20:18:04
generate electricity by 2035.

01:20:18:13 01:20:20:10
And zero, net emission of greenhouse

01:20:20:11 01:20:21:21
gases by 2050.

01:20:22:09 01:20:23:17
The president says a lot of

01:20:24:06 01:20:26:06
these things would tank the economy

01:20:26:07 01:20:27:13
and cost millions of jobs.

01:20:27:14 01:20:29:10
He's absolutely wrong, number one.

01:20:29:13 01:20:31:12
Number two, if in fact,

01:20:31:16 01:20:32:16
wind went out during our

01:20:32:17 01:20:34:02
administration, the Recovery Act,

01:20:34:20 01:20:36:04
I was in charge able to bring down

01:20:36:05 01:20:38:09
the cost of renewable energy

01:20:38:17 01:20:40:04
to cheaper than or as cheap as

01:20:40:18 01:20:41:18
coal and gas and

01:20:42:14 01:20:44:06
oil. Nobody is going to build

01:20:44:07 01:20:45:21
another coal

01:20:46:06 01:20:47:13
fired plant in America.

01:20:47:21 01:20:49:04
No one's going to build another oil

01:20:49:05 01:20:50:04
fired plant in America.

01:20:50:11 01:20:51:19
They're going to move to renewable

01:20:51:20 01:20:52:19
energy. Number one.

01:20:53:01 01:20:54:20
Number two, we're going to make sure

01:20:54:21 01:20:56:15
that we are able to take the federal

01:20:57:06 01:20:58:18
fleet and turn it into a fleet

01:20:58:19 01:21:00:10
that's run, and there are electric

01:21:00:12 01:21:02:03
vehicles. Making sure that we can do

01:21:02:04 01:21:03:18
that, we're gonna put five hundred

01:21:03:19 01:21:05:05
thousand charging stations and

01:21:05:15 01:21:06:24
all of the highways that we're going

01:21:06:25 01:21:08:05
to be building in the future.

01:21:08:11 01:21:10:06
We're going to build a new economy

01:21:10:07 01:21:11:23
that, in fact, is going to provide

01:21:12:09 01:21:14:09
for the ability for us to take

01:21:14:10 01:21:16:06
four million buildings and make

01:21:16:07 01:21:17:15
sure that they, in fact, are

01:21:17:20 01:21:19:17
weatherized in a way that in

01:21:19:18 01:21:20:20
fact, will they'll emit

01:21:21:17 01:21:22:19
significantly less gas

01:21:23:13 01:21:25:02
and oil because the heat will not be

01:21:25:03 01:21:26:18
going out. There's so many things

01:21:26:19 01:21:28:16
that we can do now to create

01:21:28:20 01:21:30:11
thousands and thousands of jobs.

01:21:30:12 01:21:32:19
We can get to net zero

01:21:33:01 01:21:35:07
in terms of energy production

01:21:35:13 01:21:37:03
by 2035,

01:21:37:11 01:21:39:05
not only not costing people jobs,

01:21:39:06 01:21:41:16
creating jobs, creating millions

01:21:41:17 01:21:43:15
of good paying jobs, not

01:21:43:16 01:21:45:11
for 15 bucks an hour, but

01:21:45:21 01:21:47:23
prevailing wage by having

01:21:47:24 01:21:49:21
a new infrastructure that, in fact,

01:21:49:23 01:21:50:23
is green.

01:21:50:24 01:21:52:07
And the first thing I will do, I

01:21:52:08 01:21:54:11
will rejoin the Paris Accord.

01:21:54:18 01:21:56:03
I will join the Paris Accord,

01:21:56:04 01:21:57:10
because with us out of it, look

01:21:57:11 01:21:58:06
what's happening.

01:21:58:07 01:21:59:20
It's all falling apart.

01:22:00:05 01:22:01:14
And talk about someone who has

01:22:02:10 01:22:04:11
no relationship with foreign

01:22:04:12 01:22:05:07
policy.

01:22:05:08 01:22:06:21
Brazil, the rainforest to Brazil

01:22:07:08 01:22:08:19
are being torn down, are being

01:22:09:01 01:22:10:01
ripped out. More and more

01:22:10:23 01:22:12:05
carbon is absorbed in that

01:22:12:12 01:22:14:03
rainforest and every bit of carbon

01:22:14:07 01:22:15:06
that's admitted in the United

01:22:15:07 01:22:16:23
States. Instead of doing something

01:22:17:08 01:22:19:01
about that, I would be gathering up

01:22:19:05 01:22:21:07
and making sure we had the countries

01:22:21:08 01:22:22:17
of the world coming up with 20

01:22:22:18 01:22:24:02
billion dollars, and say: "Here's 20

01:22:24:03 01:22:24:23
billion dollars.

01:22:24:24 01:22:26:13
Stop, stop

01:22:27:23 01:22:29:14
tearing down the forest.

01:22:29:21 01:22:30:24
And if you don't, then you're going

01:22:31:00 01:22:32:09
to have significant

01:22:32:21 01:22:33:21
economic consequences".

01:22:34:07 01:22:35:09
What about the argument that

01:22:35:18 01:22:37:11
President Trump basically says that

01:22:37:12 01:22:38:15
you have to balance

01:22:39:08 01:22:41:11
environmental interests and economic

01:22:41:12 01:22:42:06
interests?

01:22:42:07 01:22:43:17
And he's drawn his line.

01:22:44:07 01:22:45:09
Well, he hadn't drawn a line.

01:22:45:10 01:22:47:03
He's still, for example, make sure

01:22:47:04 01:22:48:12
that well he wants to make sure that

01:22:48:16 01:22:50:10
methane is not a problem, we can you

01:22:50:19 01:22:52:10
can now emit more methane without it

01:22:52:11 01:22:53:04
being a problem.

01:22:53:05 01:22:54:02
Methane.

01:22:54:03 01:22:55:22
This is a guy who says that you

01:22:55:23 01:22:57:12
don't have to have mileage standards

01:22:57:13 01:22:59:00
for automobiles that exist now.

01:22:59:10 01:23:00:20
This is a guy who says that

01:23:01:20 01:23:03:25
the fact that it's

01:23:04:00 01:23:04:13
all true.

01:23:04:14 01:23:05:11
And here's the deal.

01:23:05:12 01:23:06:11
He's talking about the Green New
Deal.

01:23:06:12 01:23:08:09
And it's not two billion or 20

01:23:08:10 01:23:09:10
billion, as you said.

01:23:09:15 01:23:10:20
It's one hundred trillion

01:23:11:21 01:23:12:21
dollars.

01:23:13:01 01:23:14:06
Where they want to rip down

01:23:14:07 01:23:16:09
buildings and rebuild

01:23:16:10 01:23:17:04
the building. It's the dumbest most

01:23:17:05 01:23:18:05
ridiculous.

01:23:19:02 01:23:20:02
Where airplanes are out of busine

01:23:20:03 01:23:21:15
ss. Where two car systems are out,
where they want to take out the cows

01:23:21:16 01:23:23:01
too. You know, that's not true either
right. This is a, this is a one

01:23:29:08 01:23:30:22
hundred trillion. That's more money,

01:23:31:04 01:23:32:18
than our country could make in a

01:23:32:22 01:23:33:22
hundred years if we're going to.

01:23:35:09 01:23:37:10
Right. Let me let me ask

01:23:37:11 01:23:38:01
because I actually.

01:23:38:02 01:23:39:12
Want a minute, sir. I actually

01:23:40:00 01:23:41:23
have studied your plan, and

01:23:41:24 01:23:43:17
it includes upgrading four million

01:23:43:18 01:23:45:17
buildings, weatherizing two million

01:23:45:18 01:23:47:05
homes over four years,

01:23:47:14 01:23:48:24
building one and a half million

01:23:49:00 01:23:51:03
energy efficient homes.

01:23:52:00 01:23:53:21
So the question becomes, the

01:23:53:22 01:23:55:13
president is saying, I think some

01:23:55:14 01:23:57:05
people who support the president

01:23:57:06 01:23:58:12
would say that sounds like

01:23:59:04 01:24:00:08
it's going to cost a lot of money

01:24:00:09 01:24:01:06
and hurt the economy.

01:24:01:07 01:24:02:03
What it's going to do is going to

01:24:02:04 01:24:03:20
create thousands and millions of

01:24:03:21 01:24:05:05
jobs. Good paying jobs.

01:24:05:07 01:24:06:09
Let's let him finish, sir.

01:24:06:17 01:24:07:17
He don't know how to do that.

01:24:07:18 01:24:08:03
100 trillion dollars.

01:24:09:12 01:24:10:14
The fact is, it's going to create

01:24:10:16 01:24:12:19
millions of good paying jobs.

01:24:13:02 01:24:14:18
And these tax incentives to people,

01:24:14:19 01:24:16:06
for people to weatherize which he

01:24:16:07 01:24:18:04
wants to get get rid of, it's

01:24:18:05 01:24:19:16
going to make the economy much

01:24:19:17 01:24:20:22
safer. Look how much we're paying

01:24:20:23 01:24:22:16
now to deal with the hurricanes.

01:24:23:18 01:24:24:18
By the way, he has an answer for

01:24:24:19 01:24:26:05
hurricanes. He said maybe we should

01:24:26:06 01:24:27:14
drop a nuclear weapon on them.

01:24:27:16 01:24:28:16
They may. I never said that at all.

01:24:29:03 01:24:30:03
Yeah he did say it.

01:24:31:08 01:24:32:08
You made it up. And here's the deal.

01:24:32:24 01:24:34:19
We are going to be in a position

01:24:34:20 01:24:36:10
where we can create

01:24:36:18 01:24:37:18
hard, hard, good

01:24:38:18 01:24:41:06
jobs by making sure the environment

01:24:41:13 01:24:43:08
is clean and we all are

01:24:43:09 01:24:44:06
in better shape.

01:24:44:07 01:24:46:03
We spend billions of dollars

01:24:46:04 01:24:47:21
now, billions of dollars

01:24:48:03 01:24:50:10
on floods, hurricanes, rising

01:24:50:11 01:24:51:08
seas.

01:24:51:09 01:24:52:12
We're in real trouble.

01:24:52:19 01:24:53:20
Look what's happened just in the

01:24:53:21 01:24:55:13
Midwest with these storms that come

01:24:55:18 01:24:57:12
through and wipe out entire sections

01:24:57:24 01:24:59:12
and counties in Iowa.

01:24:59:20 01:25:01:01
They didn't happen before they are

01:25:01:03 01:25:03:04
because of global warming.

01:25:03:12 01:25:05:07
We make up 15 percent of

01:25:05:08 01:25:06:13
the world's problem.

01:25:06:22 01:25:07:22
We in fact, but the

01:25:08:18 01:25:09:19
rest of the world, we've got to get

01:25:09:20 01:25:10:16
him to come along.

01:25:10:17 01:25:11:21
That's what we have to get back

01:25:11:22 01:25:13:14
into, back into

01:25:13:22 01:25:15:01
the Paris accord.

01:25:15:04 01:25:16:04
All right, gentlemen.

01:25:16:08 01:25:17:06
Wait a minute, Chris. So why didn't
he do

01:25:17:07 01:25:18:11
it for 47 years?

01:25:18:12 01:25:19:09
You were vice president.

01:25:19:10 01:25:20:09
Why didn't you get the world?

01:25:20:14 01:25:21:18
China sends up real dirt

01:25:22:15 01:25:24:10
into, Russia does, India

01:25:24:11 01:25:25:10
does, they all do.

01:25:25:13 01:25:26:14
We're supposed to be good.

01:25:26:15 01:25:28:04
And by the way, he made a couple

01:25:28:12 01:25:29:12
of statements.

01:25:29:13 01:25:31:03
The Green New Deal is 100 trillion

01:25:31:04 01:25:31:17
dollars.

01:25:31:18 01:25:33:00
Is not a bad plan.

01:25:39:08 01:25:40:16
He made a statement about the

01:25:40:17 01:25:42:08
military. He said I said something

01:25:42:09 01:25:43:08
about the military.

01:25:43:12 01:25:45:07
He and his friends made it up and

01:25:45:08 01:25:46:03
then they went with it.

01:25:46:04 01:25:47:03
I never said it.

01:25:59:11 01:26:00:10
Play it.

01:26:00:11 01:26:01:25
Go ahead. Mr. Vice President

01:26:02:22 01:26:04:09
answered his quote, his final

01:26:04:10 01:26:04:25
question.

01:26:05:00 01:26:06:12
The final question is, I can't

01:26:06:15 01:26:07:15
remember which of all his ranting.

01:26:07:16 01:26:09:10
I'm having

01:26:09:11 01:26:10:10
a little trouble myself.

01:26:10:14 01:26:11:14
But I about about

01:26:12:10 01:26:14:07
the economy and about this question

01:26:14:08 01:26:15:10
of what it's going to cost.

01:26:15:11 01:26:16:18
The economy.

01:26:16:24 01:26:18:05
I mean, the Green New Deal and the

01:26:18:06 01:26:19:23
idea of what what your enviromental

01:26:20:02 01:26:20:24
changes will do.

01:26:21:00 01:26:23:03
The Green New Deal will pay

01:26:23:04 01:26:25:00
for itself as we move forward.

01:26:25:07 01:26:26:18
We're not going to build plants

01:26:26:19 01:26:28:10
that, in fact, are great polluting

01:26:28:21 01:26:30:04
plants using used building green new

01:26:30:05 01:26:31:07
deal. Pardon me.

01:26:31:12 01:26:32:25
You support. No, I don't support the

01:26:32:26 01:26:33:25
Green New Deal.

01:26:34:01 01:26:35:01
Oh you don't. Oh, well, that's a big
statement.

01:26:38:22 01:26:41:04
I support the Biden plan

01:26:41:10 01:26:42:12
that I put forward.

01:26:42:13 01:26:44:08
OK. The Biden plan, which is

01:26:44:09 01:26:46:05
different than what he calls the

01:26:46:06 01:26:47:15
radical Green New Deal.

01:26:47:16 01:26:48:14
All right, gentlemen.

01:26:48:15 01:26:49:17
Final segment, election

01:26:50:20 01:26:52:04
integrity as we meet tonight

01:26:52:07 01:26:54:12
millions of Americans

01:26:54:16 01:26:56:24
are receiving mvail-in ballots

01:26:57:00 01:26:58:08
or going to vote early.

01:26:59:00 01:27:00:03
How confident should we

01:27:01:00 01:27:02:22
be that this will be a fair

01:27:02:23 01:27:04:22
election? And what are you prepared

01:27:04:23 01:27:07:03
to do over the next five

01:27:07:17 01:27:09:10
plus weeks? Because it will not only

01:27:09:11 01:27:10:23
be to Election Day, but also

01:27:11:06 01:27:13:01
counting some ballots, mail in

01:27:13:02 01:27:14:11
ballots after Election Day.

01:27:14:20 01:27:16:17
What are you prepared to do to

01:27:16:18 01:27:18:13
reassure the American people that

01:27:18:14 01:27:20:10
the next president will be the

01:27:20:11 01:27:21:11
legitimate winner of

01:27:22:08 01:27:24:10
this election in this final segment?

01:27:24:19 01:27:25:20
Mr. Vice President, you go first.

01:27:25:22 01:27:27:09
Prepared to let people vote.

01:27:27:11 01:27:28:11
We should go to iwillvote.com,

01:27:29:19 01:27:31:03
decide how they're going to vote,

01:27:31:04 01:27:32:07
when they're going to vote and what

01:27:32:08 01:27:33:05
means by which they're going to

01:27:33:06 01:27:34:07
vote. His own homeland

01:27:35:05 01:27:36:21
security director, as well as the

01:27:36:22 01:27:38:17
FBI director, says there is no

01:27:38:18 01:27:40:14
evidence at all that mail in ballots

01:27:40:21 01:27:43:05
are a source of be manipulated

01:27:43:06 01:27:44:06
and cheating.

01:27:44:08 01:27:45:21
They said that the fact is that

01:27:46:06 01:27:47:12
there going to be millions of people

01:27:47:13 01:27:49:02
because of covid that are going to

01:27:49:03 01:27:51:02
be voting by mail in ballots like

01:27:51:03 01:27:52:23
he does, by the way, he sits behind

01:27:52:24 01:27:54:08
the resolute desk and sends his

01:27:54:09 01:27:56:02
ballot to Florida, number one.

01:27:56:03 01:27:57:16
And number two, we're going to make

01:27:57:17 01:27:59:04
sure that those people who want

01:27:59:15 01:28:01:11
to vote in person are able to vote

01:28:01:12 01:28:02:21
because enough poll watchers are

01:28:02:22 01:28:04:22
there to make sure they can socially

01:28:04:23 01:28:07:03
distance. The polls are open on time

01:28:07:10 01:28:08:23
and there are polls stay open until

01:28:08:24 01:28:09:23
the votes are counted.

01:28:10:08 01:28:11:21
And this is all about trying to

01:28:11:22 01:28:13:16
dissuade people from voting

01:28:13:22 01:28:15:10
because he's trying to confuse

01:28:15:19 01:28:17:13
to scare people into thinking that

01:28:17:14 01:28:19:03
it's not can be legitimate, show

01:28:19:14 01:28:20:14
up and vote.

01:28:20:23 01:28:22:20
You will determine the outcome

01:28:22:21 01:28:24:16
of this election. Vote, vote,

01:28:24:17 01:28:26:13
vote. If you're able to vote early

01:28:26:14 01:28:27:21
in your state. Vote early.

01:28:28:06 01:28:30:02
If you're able to vote in person.

01:28:30:06 01:28:31:01
Vote in person.

01:28:31:02 01:28:32:16
Vote whatever way is the best way

01:28:32:17 01:28:33:21
for you because you will

01:28:34:13 01:28:35:16
he cannot stop you from

01:28:36:11 01:28:38:04
being able to determine the outcome

01:28:38:07 01:28:39:07
of this election.

01:28:39:09 01:28:40:18
And in terms of whether or not when

01:28:40:19 01:28:41:23
the votes are counted and they're

01:28:41:24 01:28:44:06
all counted, that will be accepted.

01:28:44:11 01:28:45:25
If I win, that will be accepted.

01:28:46:11 01:28:47:22
If I lose, they'll be accepted.

01:28:47:23 01:28:49:20
But by the way, if in fact, he

01:28:49:21 01:28:51:12
says he's not sure what he's going

01:28:51:13 01:28:52:08
to accept.

01:28:52:09 01:28:53:03
Well, let me tell you some.

01:28:53:04 01:28:55:02
It does matter because if we get

01:28:55:03 01:28:56:15
the votes, it's going to be all

01:28:56:18 01:28:57:24
over. He's going to go.

01:28:58:03 01:28:59:08
He can't stay in power.

01:28:59:13 01:29:00:13
It won't happen.

01:29:00:14 01:29:01:14
It won't happen.

01:29:01:15 01:29:02:14
So vote.

01:29:02:17 01:29:04:14
Just make sure you understand

01:29:04:22 01:29:06:21
you have it in your control

01:29:06:22 01:29:08:16
to determine what this country is

01:29:08:17 01:29:09:23
going to look like the next four

01:29:09:24 01:29:11:05
years. Is it going to change or are

01:29:11:06 01:29:13:02
you gonna get four more years of

01:29:13:03 01:29:14:02
these lives?

01:29:15:08 01:29:16:17
Mr. President, two minutes.

01:29:16:20 01:29:18:18
So when I listen

01:29:18:19 01:29:21:01
to Joe talking about a transition,

01:29:21:15 01:29:23:07
there's been no transition from when

01:29:23:08 01:29:24:16
I won, I won that election.

01:29:25:00 01:29:26:17
And if you look at crooked Hillary

01:29:27:01 01:29:28:08
Clinton, if you look at all of the

01:29:28:09 01:29:29:08
different people.

01:29:29:15 01:29:31:08
There was no transition because they

01:29:31:09 01:29:33:06
came after me trying to do a coup.

01:29:33:13 01:29:35:00
They came after me spying on my

01:29:35:02 01:29:36:00
campaign.

01:29:36:01 01:29:37:16
They started from the day I won.

01:29:37:17 01:29:39:07
And even before I won, from the day

01:29:39:08 01:29:40:18
I came down the escalator with our

01:29:40:19 01:29:41:19
first lady, they were

01:29:42:17 01:29:43:11
a disaster.

01:29:43:12 01:29:45:01
They were a disgrace to our country.

01:29:45:06 01:29:46:06
And we've caught them.

01:29:46:09 01:29:47:09
We've caught them all.

01:29:47:14 01:29:48:19
We've got it all on tape.

01:29:48:20 01:29:49:20
We've caught them all. And by the

01:29:49:21 01:29:51:14
way, you gave the idea for the Logan

01:29:51:15 01:29:52:21
Act against General Flynn.

01:29:53:04 01:29:54:07
You better take a look at that,

01:29:54:08 01:29:55:19
because we caught you in a sense,

01:29:55:20 01:29:57:07
and President Obama was sitting

01:29:57:18 01:29:58:20
in the office. He knew about it,

01:29:58:21 01:30:00:07
too. So don't tell me about a free

01:30:00:08 01:30:01:07
transition.

01:30:01:16 01:30:03:09
As far as the ballots are concerned.

01:30:03:11 01:30:05:12
It's a disaster, a

01:30:05:24 01:30:07:04
solicited ballot.

01:30:07:20 01:30:09:17
OK. Solicited is okay.

01:30:09:23 01:30:11:09
You're soliciting your asking.

01:30:11:10 01:30:12:05
They send it back.

01:30:12:06 01:30:13:05
You send it back.

01:30:13:12 01:30:14:11
I did that.

01:30:14:12 01:30:15:20
If you have an unsolicited they're

01:30:15:21 01:30:17:14
sending millions of ballots all over

01:30:17:17 01:30:18:14
the country.

01:30:18:15 01:30:19:14
There's fraud.

01:30:19:15 01:30:20:24
They found them in creeks.

01:30:21:03 01:30:22:17
They found some with the name Trump

01:30:22:18 01:30:23:19
just happened to have the name

01:30:23:20 01:30:25:06
Trump, just the other day in a

01:30:25:07 01:30:26:11
wastepaper basket.

01:30:26:18 01:30:28:00
They're being sent all over the

01:30:28:01 01:30:29:22
place. They sent two in

01:30:29:23 01:30:30:21
a Democrat area.

01:30:30:22 01:30:32:08
They sent out a thousand ballots.

01:30:32:09 01:30:33:14
Everybody got two ballots.

01:30:33:22 01:30:35:19
This is going to be a fraud like

01:30:35:20 01:30:36:18
you've never seen.

01:30:36:19 01:30:38:05
The other thing, it's nice, on

01:30:38:10 01:30:40:05
November 3rd, you're watching and

01:30:40:06 01:30:41:13
you see who won the election.

01:30:41:20 01:30:42:24
And I think we're going to do well

01:30:43:00 01:30:44:13
because people are really happy with

01:30:44:14 01:30:45:14
the job we've done.

01:30:45:16 01:30:46:16
But you know what?

01:30:46:17 01:30:48:08
We won't know. We might not know for

01:30:48:09 01:30:49:22
months because these ballots are

01:30:50:05 01:30:51:03
going to be all over.

01:30:51:04 01:30:52:09
Take a look at what happened in

01:30:52:10 01:30:53:13
Manhattan. Take a look at what

01:30:53:14 01:30:54:22
happened in New Jersey.

01:30:54:23 01:30:56:03
Take a look at what happened in

01:30:56:04 01:30:57:06
Virginia and other places.

01:30:57:16 01:30:59:03
They're not losing two percent, one

01:30:59:04 01:31:00:08
percent, which, by the way, is too

01:31:00:09 01:31:01:20
much. An election could be won or

01:31:01:21 01:31:03:10
lost with that, they're losing 30

01:31:03:16 01:31:04:18
and 40 percent.

01:31:05:01 01:31:07:11
It's a fraud and it's a shame.

01:31:07:18 01:31:09:11
And can you imagine where they say

01:31:09:25 01:31:11:16
you have to have your ballot in by

01:31:11:17 01:31:13:20
November 10th, November

01:31:13:21 01:31:15:23
10th? That means that's seven

01:31:15:24 01:31:17:22
days after the election.

01:31:17:23 01:31:19:06
In theory, should have been

01:31:19:07 01:31:19:15
announced.

01:31:19:16 01:31:19:23
OK.

01:31:19:24 01:31:21:19
We have made major states like that,

01:31:21:21 01:31:22:25
all run by Democrats.

01:31:27:07 01:31:28:15
Two minutes, two minutes. President
Trump, you're gonna be able

01:31:28:16 01:31:29:05
to continue.

01:31:29:07 01:31:30:24
You have been charging for months

01:31:31:00 01:31:32:10
that mail-in balloting is going to

01:31:32:11 01:31:33:10
be a disaster.

01:31:33:11 01:31:34:12
You say it's rigged.

01:31:34:18 01:31:36:11
I said it's going to lead to fraud.

01:31:36:20 01:31:38:09
But in 2018 and the last midterm

01:31:38:24 01:31:40:23
election, thirty one million

01:31:40:24 01:31:42:23
people voted mail in

01:31:43:06 01:31:44:01
voting.

01:31:44:02 01:31:45:19
That was a quarter.

01:31:45:20 01:31:46:25
More than a quarter of all the

01:31:47:00 01:31:48:24
voters that year cast their ballots

01:31:48:25 01:31:49:25
by mail.

01:31:50:04 01:31:52:00
Now that millions of mail in

01:31:52:13 01:31:53:17
ballots have gone out.

01:31:54:07 01:31:55:12
What are you going to do about it?

01:31:55:20 01:31:57:16
And are you counting on

01:31:57:17 01:31:59:14
the Supreme Court, including

01:31:59:15 01:32:01:11
a justice Barrett, to settle

01:32:01:12 01:32:02:00
on any dispute?

01:32:02:01 01:32:03:12
Yeah, I think I'm counting on them

01:32:03:13 01:32:04:11
to look at the ballots.

01:32:04:12 01:32:05:17
Definitely. I don't think we'll.

01:32:05:19 01:32:07:14
I hope we don't need them in

01:32:07:15 01:32:09:05
terms of the election itself, but

01:32:09:11 01:32:11:13
for the ballots. I think so, because

01:32:11:14 01:32:12:22
what's happening is incredible.

01:32:12:23 01:32:14:15
I just heard I read today where at

01:32:14:16 01:32:16:14
least one percent of the ballots for

01:32:16:15 01:32:18:10
2016 were

01:32:18:22 01:32:19:22
invalidated.

01:32:20:04 01:32:21:04
They they take them.

01:32:21:05 01:32:22:04
We don't like them. We don't like

01:32:22:05 01:32:23:04
them (OVERTALK). You

01:32:25:12 01:32:27:12
go and vote. You do a solicited

01:32:27:13 01:32:28:17
ballot. No, no, that's OK.

01:32:28:20 01:32:29:16
You know, who are you go and vote.

01:32:29:17 01:32:31:02
I'm asking you about the fact that

01:32:31:03 01:32:32:02
millions of people,.

01:32:32:03 01:32:34:01
You go and you go and

01:32:34:02 01:32:35:01
vote (OVERTALK) either

01:32:37:11 01:32:38:12
do Chris, a solicited

01:32:39:12 01:32:40:23
ballot where you're sending it in,

01:32:40:24 01:32:41:20
they're sending it back.

01:32:41:21 01:32:43:24
And you sending they have mailmen

01:32:44:00 01:32:45:12
with lots of it. Did you see what's

01:32:45:13 01:32:46:15
going on? Take a look at West

01:32:46:16 01:32:47:25
Virginia mailman selling the

01:32:47:26 01:32:48:23
ballots.

01:32:48:24 01:32:49:24
They're being sold.

01:32:50:01 01:32:51:11
They're being dumped in rivers.

01:32:51:19 01:32:53:09
This is a horrible thing for our

01:32:53:10 01:32:54:09
country (OVERTALK).

01:33:02:02 01:33:03:21
Mail-in ballots for the last

01:33:04:11 01:33:06:04
decade or more, five, including two

01:33:06:10 01:33:07:11
Republican states.

01:33:07:24 01:33:09:08
And you don't have to solicit the

01:33:09:09 01:33:10:18
ballot. It's sent to you.

01:33:11:01 01:33:12:02
It's sent to your home.

01:33:12:10 01:33:14:02
What we're saying is they're saying

01:33:14:03 01:33:15:18
is that it has to be a postmark.

01:33:15:23 01:33:17:02
By the time, by Election

01:33:17:23 01:33:19:10
Day, if it doesn't get in till

01:33:19:20 01:33:21:23
the seventh day nine, it's still

01:33:22:00 01:33:23:11
should be counted.

01:33:23:20 01:33:25:09
He's just afraid of counting the

01:33:25:12 01:33:25:21
votes.

01:33:25:22 01:33:26:19
You're wrong.

01:33:26:20 01:33:27:19
You're wrong. (OVERTALK) Chris,

01:33:31:03 01:33:32:04
he's so wrong when he makes his

01:33:32:05 01:33:32:21
statement like that.

01:33:32:22 01:33:33:21
Excuse me.

01:33:34:07 01:33:35:19
Vice President Biden the biggest

01:33:35:20 01:33:37:09
problem? In fact, over the years

01:33:37:14 01:33:39:09
with mail-in voting has not

01:33:39:10 01:33:40:23
been fraud. Historically,

01:33:41:07 01:33:42:11
it has been that sizable

01:33:43:09 01:33:44:09
number. Sometimes hundreds of

01:33:44:10 01:33:46:00
thousands of ballots are thrown out

01:33:46:09 01:33:48:11
because they have not been properly

01:33:48:12 01:33:49:25
filled out or there is some other

01:33:50:00 01:33:51:15
irregularity or they missed

01:33:51:21 01:33:53:10
the deadline. So the question I have

01:33:53:11 01:33:54:24
is, are you concerned

01:33:55:12 01:33:56:19
that the Supreme Court, with a

01:33:56:20 01:33:58:15
Justice Barret, will settle

01:33:58:16 01:33:59:10
any dispute?

01:33:59:11 01:34:01:02
I'm concerned that any court would

01:34:01:08 01:34:02:10
settle this, because here's the

01:34:02:11 01:34:03:09
deal.

01:34:03:10 01:34:05:03
When you when you file,

01:34:05:09 01:34:07:05
when you get a ballot and you fill

01:34:07:06 01:34:08:21
it out, you're supposed to have an

01:34:09:01 01:34:10:13
affidavit. If you didn't know you

01:34:10:14 01:34:12:11
have someone say that this

01:34:12:12 01:34:14:14
is me, you should be able to.

01:34:14:18 01:34:16:09
If in fact, you can verify that's

01:34:16:10 01:34:17:22
you before the ballot is thrown

01:34:18:13 01:34:20:03
out. That's sufficient to be able

01:34:20:09 01:34:22:02
to count the ballot because someone

01:34:22:03 01:34:23:16
made a mistake and not

01:34:24:15 01:34:25:15
dotting the correct I.

01:34:26:01 01:34:27:05
Who they voted for.

01:34:27:10 01:34:28:18
Testify, say who they voted

01:34:29:11 01:34:30:11
for.

01:34:30:12 01:34:32:02
Say it's you, that is totally

01:34:32:03 01:34:32:23
legitimate.

01:34:32:24 01:34:33:23
All right. (OVERTALK).

01:34:38:19 01:34:39:22
You know, it can't be done.

01:34:39:23 01:34:40:21
You know, it can't.

01:34:40:22 01:34:41:17
And already.

01:34:41:18 01:34:42:17
All right. And so now.

01:34:50:09 01:34:52:10
Election workers are prohibited

01:34:52:24 01:34:54:17
currently by law, eight states

01:34:55:02 01:34:57:01
from even beginning to process

01:34:57:17 01:34:59:02
ballots, even take them out of the

01:34:59:03 01:35:00:06
envelopes and yes, flatten them

01:35:01:04 01:35:02:01
until Election Day.

01:35:02:02 01:35:03:19
That means that it's likely because

01:35:04:01 01:35:05:14
there's going to be a huge increase

01:35:05:23 01:35:07:13
in mail, in balloting

01:35:07:21 01:35:09:04
that we are not going to know on

01:35:09:05 01:35:10:23
election night who the winner is,

01:35:10:24 01:35:12:01
that it could be days.

01:35:12:02 01:35:13:02
It could be weeks.

01:35:13:03 01:35:14:16
Could be months until we find out

01:35:14:17 01:35:16:12
who the the new president

01:35:16:13 01:35:18:18
is. So I first for you, sir.

01:35:18:22 01:35:20:09
Finally for the for the vice

01:35:20:10 01:35:21:12
president. I hope neither of you

01:35:21:13 01:35:22:13
will interrupt the other.

01:35:23:03 01:35:25:04
Will you urge your supporters

01:35:25:11 01:35:27:11
to stay calm during this

01:35:27:12 01:35:28:13
extended period not to

01:35:29:08 01:35:31:09
engage in any civil unrest?

01:35:31:10 01:35:33:08
And will you pledge tonight that

01:35:33:09 01:35:35:00
you will not declare victory

01:35:35:09 01:35:36:25
until the election has been

01:35:36:26 01:35:38:11
independently certified?

01:35:39:00 01:35:39:19
President Trump, you go first.

01:35:39:20 01:35:41:23
I'm urging my supporters to go

01:35:41:24 01:35:43:08
into the polls and watch very

01:35:44:00 01:35:45:22
carefully because that's what

01:35:45:23 01:35:47:20
has to happen. I am urging them to

01:35:47:21 01:35:49:15
do it. As you know, today, there was

01:35:49:19 01:35:51:12
a big problem in Philadelphia, they

01:35:51:16 01:35:52:14
went in to watch.

01:35:52:15 01:35:54:04
They were called poll watchers, a

01:35:54:05 01:35:55:19
very safe, very nice thing.

01:35:56:01 01:35:57:02
They were thrown out.

01:35:57:04 01:35:58:10
They weren't allowed to watch.

01:35:58:16 01:35:59:10
You know why?

01:35:59:11 01:36:00:19
Because bad things happen in

01:36:00:20 01:36:02:06
Philadelphia. Bad things.

01:36:02:14 01:36:03:14
And I am urging.

01:36:04:01 01:36:05:09
I am urging my people.

01:36:05:10 01:36:06:13
I hope it's going to be a fair

01:36:06:14 01:36:08:02
election if it's a fair election.

01:36:08:09 01:36:10:04
I am 100 percent on board.

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But if I see tens of thousands

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of ballots being manipulated,

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I can't go along with that.

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And I'll tell you why that from a

01:36:17:07 01:36:18:16
common sense does not mean I'll tell

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you why they're being attacked.

01:36:19:19 01:36:20:25
It means you have a fraudulent

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election.

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You said 80 million ballots

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that they're not equipped.

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These people aren't equipped to

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handle it. Number one.

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Number two.

01:36:28:18 01:36:29:17
They cheat.

01:36:29:20 01:36:31:19
They cheat. Hey, they found

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ballots in a wastepaper basket

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three days ago and they all had

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the name military ballots.

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They were military.

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They all had the name Trump on them.

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Vice President. That's good.

01:36:41:18 01:36:43:06
Vice President Biden, final question

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for you. Will you urge your

01:36:44:21 01:36:46:09
supporters to stay calm

01:36:46:20 01:36:47:23
while the vote is counted?

01:36:47:24 01:36:49:05
And will you pledge not to

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declare victory until the election

01:36:51:19 01:36:53:05
is independently certified?

01:36:53:07 01:36:54:19
Yes. And here's the deal.

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When you count the ballots, as you

01:36:56:15 01:36:58:15
pointed out, some of these ballots

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in some states can't even be opened

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until Election Day.

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And if there's thousands of ballots

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it's going to take time to do it.

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And by the way, our military,

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they've been voting by ballots,

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for since the end of the civil war,

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in effect, and that's that's what's

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going to happen. Why was it not?

01:37:15:17 01:37:17:15
Why is it for them somehow

01:37:17:21 01:37:18:21
not fraudulent?

01:37:19:04 01:37:20:12
It's the same process.

01:37:20:24 01:37:21:24
It's honest.

01:37:22:00 01:37:23:24
No one has established at all

01:37:24:05 01:37:25:13
that there is fraud related

01:37:26:12 01:37:28:04
to mail in ballots,

01:37:28:13 01:37:30:03
that somehow it's a fraudulent

01:37:30:04 01:37:30:23
process.

01:37:30:24 01:37:31:23
It's already been established.

01:37:32:03 01:37:33:03
Take a look at

01:37:33:04 01:37:33:13
Carolyn Maloney's...

01:37:35:16 01:37:36:17
Go ahead.

01:37:36:19 01:37:37:19
They have no idea what happened.

01:37:38:00 01:37:39:00
Vice President Biden, go ahead.

01:37:39:03 01:37:40:08
He has no idea what he's talking

01:37:40:09 01:37:41:08
about. Here's the deal.

01:37:41:13 01:37:43:04
The fact is, I will accept it.

01:37:43:05 01:37:44:11
And he will too. You know why?

01:37:45:00 01:37:47:02
Because once the winner

01:37:47:03 01:37:48:16
is declared, after all the all the

01:37:48:17 01:37:50:04
ballots are counted, all the votes

01:37:50:05 01:37:51:01
are counted.

01:37:51:02 01:37:52:02
That will be the end of it.

01:37:52:07 01:37:53:07
That will be the end of it.

01:37:53:12 01:37:55:07
And if it's me, in fact, fine

01:37:55:19 01:37:57:03
if it's not me, I'll support

01:37:57:14 01:37:59:15
the outcome and I'll be a president,

01:37:59:16 01:38:01:18
not just for the Democrats.

01:38:01:19 01:38:03:06
I'll be president for Democrats and

01:38:03:07 01:38:04:06
Republicans.

01:38:04:07 01:38:05:07
And this guy...

01:38:06:15 01:38:06:25
I wanna say...

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Gentlemen, we say that's the end of

01:38:08:18 01:38:10:06
it. This is the end of this debate.

01:38:10:14 01:38:11:10
... honest ballot count and I think

01:38:11:11 01:38:11:17
he does too.

01:38:11:18 01:38:12:14
We're going to leave it there.

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To be continued as,

01:38:15:11 01:38:17:12
in more debates as we go on.

01:38:18:00 01:38:20:02
President Trump, Vice President

01:38:20:03 01:38:21:09
Biden, it's been an interesting hour

01:38:21:10 01:38:23:03
and a half. I want to thank you both

01:38:23:12 01:38:24:23
for participating in the first

01:38:25:13 01:38:26:15
of three debates that you have

01:38:26:16 01:38:27:14
agreed to engage in.

01:38:27:15 01:38:29:06
And we want to thank Case Western

01:38:29:07 01:38:31:03
Reserve University and

01:38:31:04 01:38:32:11
the Cleveland Clinic for hosting

01:38:32:12 01:38:33:10
this event.

01:38:33:11 01:38:34:24
The next debate, sponsored by the

01:38:35:00 01:38:36:11
Commission on Presidential Debates,

01:38:36:22 01:38:38:10
will be one week from tomorrow,

01:38:38:13 01:38:40:03
October 7th, at the University of

01:38:40:09 01:38:41:12
Utah in Salt Lake City.

01:38:42:07 01:38:44:02
The two vice presidential nominees,

01:38:44:03 01:38:45:10
Vice President Mike Pence and

01:38:45:11 01:38:46:15
Senator Kamala Harris.

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We'll debate at 9:00 p.m.

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Eastern that night.

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We hope you watch.

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Until then, thank you

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and good night.

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He's the greatest president of all

01:39:43:23 01:39:44:10
time. We love you Trump.

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